My family and I have the China virus

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  1. Steve N

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    I feel really bad for your wife, but those brain aneurysms suck, I lost someone to a brain stem aneurysm and it was over in 3 seconds, that fast.

    When I was going through all the questions with the Dept of Health, they rattled off a bunch of symptoms and asked me if I had any of them. One of the symptoms was pain in the eyes. I never heard of that one before, but she said in the beginning a lot of people suffered from eye pain and then suddenly people stopped reporting as having it. I told her I have insomnia, which is not on her list of symptoms but she's hearing more and more people complain about it.
     
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    [​IMG] ~ A clove a day keeps the virus away ...
     
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    If you did the RT-PCR test, it is very accurate, but the problem is, the swab needs to get a sample at a time when the virus is present in your nose. So sometimes it takes a few tries to get to an appropriate sample that does contain the virus.
     
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    Sorry to hear about your wife.
     
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    Maybe the insomnia is coming from worries. In any case, Melatonin not only helps with the insomnia but also has some virus inhibition properties, which is why it is part of the protocol I mentioned to you in my first post here. You can order Melatonin over-the-counter from Amazon without a prescription. Pick one of the extended release formulations. 2 mg is the usual dose (weirdly enough, with Melatonin, less is more - overshooting sometimes diminishes its efficacy). Now when people are already showing Covid-19 symptoms then the dose increases to 10mg, as per page 10 of that protocol. Once you all recover you can go back to 2mg.

    About eye pain, just the sheer presence of fever sometimes makes the muscles that control eye movements a bit sore.
     
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    I am noticing a number of pulse oximeters with all night logging and low oxygen alarms for a very reasonably price, like $75 or so.

    My serious heart failure is managed pretty well from my pacemaker and other tech, but I will get that slon as some others I know who can evaluate these (some early non-adorned pulse oximeters after China got back manufacturing past summer really sucked), but this Winter some good basic models are very nice for $35 or $45, and good manage some monitoring, but no alarms or decent long term sleep monitoring.

    But these new logging models for a decent price would be great for adfitional tracking COVID, pneumonia, CPAP compliance, and heart failure. To me, anyway, this is only for information purposes only!

    In the hospital, many of those goodies are available, but at home or without good insurance, finding makearounds is the name of that game!
     
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    My bet is that the reason for the galaxy of symptoms is that the virus was engineered for gain of function. A Frankenstein virus if you will.
     
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    *coronavirus.

    Get well. I'm sure you will be fine. If not, please keep us posted. We're here for you.
     
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    "GAIN OF FUNCTION". Wasn't' that what the lab in Wuhan was engaged in with viruses well before this appeared, and Dr Frankenstein Fauci's outfit knew of it and was OK with? God willing there WILL be a day of reckoning with a little inconvenience called the TRUTH. Hope there's an ample supply of rope.....
     
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    I can't eat or sleep, and now I have to be near a bathroom all the time. My wife's symptoms are much worse than mine and she's now in day 15 with them. I don't feel like my life is in danger, but this does such.
     
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    My thoughts are with you Steve. I personally know many in my area that have gotten it. Most were mild, a couple got a little serious, all of them ended up fine. You will too.
     
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    Take care, try to get as much sleep as you need.
     
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    Good luck to you and your family. I hope everyone comes out o.k. Interestingly I heard on NBC news just tonight that 47% Republicans and 10% Democrats won't take the vaccine. I know a lot of influence was trump's attitude towards masks but you would think the fact that he and his wife both were vaccinated before they left the White House would make a more positive impression on our Republican friends.
     
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    Darn it sucks. Sorry to hear it. Maybe you can drink some protein shakes in between until you recover your sense of smell? And have you noticed what I said about melatonin for your sleep?

    The protocol I sent you does recommend ivermectin for moderate cases. I know it's controversial. I mostly believe that it is a good idea. There is enough evidence of benefit, by now (see the meta-analysis included in the protocol). This is not hydroxychloroquine. It does seem like ivermectin may indeed have some action in mild/moderate cases like yours and your wife's and make you guys improve faster. Read the protocol, Steve. Then you can make up your mind if you should ask your doctor about it.

    I do not intend to practice medicine over the Internet for patients I haven't personally examined. I'm just saying, this is a protocol in the public domain and it is adopted in many hospitals including mine, so, it's worth considering and discussing it with your physician, and I have no ethical issue with directing your attention to it, since it's a public document. The decision is always yours and your physician's and not mine, of course. This should not be construed as direct medical advice, but information helps. Read it, and talk to your doctor; the two of you will then make some treatment decisions.

    Is anybody monitoring your wife's pulse ox? Asymptomatic hypoxemia is a concern. People who routinely desaturate below 94% (that is, 93% and lower) is where we draw the line for hospitalization.

    On the other hand, 15 days of being at home without a need for hospitalization is reassuring. It indicates that you guys are having a hard time but won't have life-threatening issues. But do look at the protocol I sent you. Consider also the anticoagulation issues. People with moderate Covid-19 can recover and then develop blood clots. Beware of this issue.
     
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    Nah. No evidence exists that the SARS-CoV-2 is a product of gain of function research in the Wuhan lab. It does look like a natural virus with no human manipulation or engineering of any kind. I'm sure that politically, a lot of people wish that this man-made or man-enhanced theory to be true, but pure science won't necessarily substantiate this kind of wishful thinking. You might be surprised to know that the TRUTH you're talking about, is that this is a natural virus. I'm sure it's inconvenient... for your ideology.

    Do observe the following: every time that someone in the media is interviewed by a journalist and gives credence to this theory, the person advertised as an "expert" is not a virologist. Last time I saw someone endorsing this, the guy was a freaking endocrinologist. He said a number of absurd and misinformed ideas, and the article was propping him up as an "expert." Sure, he's an expert in endocrinology... which has absolutely nothing to do with virology, epidemiology, or infectious diseases. Recently I saw a freaking oncology surgeon spouting nonsense. People should stay on their lanes. But some people love the publicity. A journalist can always find some "expert" willing to say what the journalist expects will sell papers or earn clicks, for the "expert's" delight with his 15 minutes of fame.

    Real Virology science doesn't operate like this. We look at genome sequences and we pair them with natural-occurring bat coronaviruses, and compare the genomic differences and similarities, and place the new virus into a phylogenetic tree. When you see a smooth, expected transition, it's a natural virus. When you see abrupt jumps and evidence of inserted, rare, and anomalous sequences, it's a manipulated virus. The SARS-CoV-2 definitely looks like the former rather than the latter.

    Oh, people say, too much of a coincidence, there is a Virology lab in Wuhan and the virus emerged in the Wuhan market. Uh, except that the virus did not emerge in the Wuhan market. This has been ruled out. The market was a superspreader event but not the point of origin. There are enough documented early cases that had no relationship whatsoever with the Wuhan market. As a matter of fact, unequivocal presence of the SARS-CoV-2 was found in blood samples frozen for a study of lung cancer in Italy, in dozens of cases, in September of 2019, three full months before the Wuhan market outbreak. Sorry to burst your bubble.
     
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    The Darwin Award Academy thanks these 47% of Republicans and 10% of Democrats who won't take the vaccine, for expanding the pool of people who will be eligible for the Award. It looks like the population of Republicans in America will shrink a bit as compared to Democrats, given this statistical discrepancy.
     
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    False, considering the china virus's kill rate is abysmal.

    However, as unfortunate as it is, democrats have been hit the hardest by the china virus. They didnt take it seriously, and they suffered the consequences in their areas. Darwin award indeed.
     
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    What part of "a bit" you didn't understand?
    Well, this second phrase of yours has to do with access and poverty and how the virus spreads more easily in situations of crowded quarters and public transportation as opposed to wealthier people with cars and single-family homes, rather than people voluntarily not accepting a vaccine they are offered. You are mixing up issues of populational spread versus issues of vaccine acceptance. Nice try but what you are saying has nothing to do with what I was saying.
    And are you actually suggesting that the Democrats are the ones who didn't take it seriously? LOL.
    Where were you when Trump loyalists were calling this a little flu and saying that masks were for sissies and an attempt to control them and curtail their freeeeeeedoms?
     
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    Except it wont, and I was accurate in pointing out exactly why.

    It had nothing to do with poverty as poverty doesn't stop people from making good decisions and socially distancing.

    Yes, democrats didnt take it seriously. Thats why their areas were hit the hardest, by a considerable margin blue areas, even in red states, were smashed comparatively speaking.

    Simply pointing out the truth you dont like. Darwin award is definitively happening, and its the blue areas that it was awarded to.

    That smashes your false narrative.
     
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    Look, I have very little patience for a poster like you, who distorts information like this. The issue you are talking about is NOT one of vaccine acceptance. You are confounding infectiousness in populations that are poorer, live in crowded quarters as opposed to single-family homes, and take public transportation as opposed to personal cars, and can't afford good masks, are underinsured or uninsured, and have poor access to care, testing, contact tracing, and can't afford to call in sick, with issues of vaccine acceptance. It's called a fallacy, The topic for the Darwin Award was refusing a vaccine, not the rate of infectiousness in different communities. A population being hardly hit by the virus doesn't mean that they don't take it seriously or refuse vaccines.

    This kind of disingenuous "gotcha" kind of poster doesn't deserve my attention. Not to forget, it is simply ABSURD to re-write History and ignore all the Trump loyalists dismissing Covid-19 and calling it a little flu.

    Farewell. Discussing ANYTHING with you is pointless, given your style. Have a nice and safe and long life. Over and out as far as you're concerned.
     
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    I dont care what you have patience for, I am not distorting anything. I am hitting you with facts, facts that disprove your narrative that you wished was true so emotionally.

    The issue I am talking about is the FACT dems didnt take this seriously enough and that is demonstrable in the reality their areas were hit the hardest. I am not confounding anything, I am pointing out that poverty is not a reason for the infection rates. Poverty doesn't stop good decision making, and masks are free and everywhere. Walking outside can be safer than riding in a car, especially if you have other people. Fact is, what you want to believe is not true no matter how desperately you want to believe it.

    The only fallacy was yours, based on false information or more accurately, false interpretation of information.

    The topic of the darwin award is directly related to Covid, not just the vaccine and it absolutely hit blue areas the hardest.

    The fact you think I am the "gotcha" poster, demonstrates you arent showing self awareness haha. But that is YOUR fault, not mine. Would you have said what you said about the black community, which is far more likely to refuse the vaccine according to the data? ofcourse you wouldn't (nor should you) but you thought it was ok to do it for those you dislike. Smh. You get what you give. Get used to it, this is dems America.

    Fact of the matter is, dems did not take this seriously enough. And instead, made murderers like cuomo their hero.
     
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    If you are not yet familiar with the incredible work of Dr. David E. Martin, you should check it out. He can be seen at FreedomPlatform.tv

    The short story is that with IBM's help, in 1999 the first federal agency to digitize its records was the US Patent Office.

    Martin has a software program he calls Linguistic Genomics, and he applied it to the many records of USPO. In the end, it turns out Anthony Fauci and Ralph Baric and many others have been working USPO for patents on coronavirus, which technically is against US Patent Law, as the virus is a part of nature. It's a long and fascinating story, and totally documented by the official and public records of USPO.

    Martin is an MD, and I suspect he is also a lawyer. He has constructed a Fauci Dossier, supported by numerous public records and public federal law.

    This should be his website, and that dossier can be found there. If we had one conscientious and patriotic prosecutor in these United States, Fauci would be indicted.

    Home | Urban Global Health Alliance
     
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    loss of taste is what my relatives experienced as well. The bright side is in a few weeks, your plasma will be desired as you will have antibodies
     
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    Always good to hear from you Mr. blue.
     
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    I hope everyone gets well soon.
    Sounds like they brought it home to you.
    Where did they catch it? Do you know?
     

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