Feminism is an ideology that has no gender. Being born a girl does not mean that you automatically are- or have to be a Feminist. In no way at all is 'Feminism' and 'woman' synonymous. Furthermore, the ideology of Feminism does not have a monopoly on the notion of "equality" and neither is "equality of the sexes" the only aspect of Feminism. The reason I "put down" Feminism is because I do not agree with the basis on which the ideology is built. Not because I hate women. The logic of your argument is just as stupid as saying "if you don't like Nazism, you hate white people." A ridiculously anti-intellectual strawman is what it is.
Why are you expanding the word? Feminism is the belief in women’s equality . What is this ideology that you hate so much? You are making it sound like feminism is a club Where we all have to think the same. It certainly sounds like you are threatened by it by the fact that you have to paeudointellectualize
FoxHastings said: ↑ Since feminism means sexual equality (equal rights). If one is not for equality for both sexes then they are misogynistic. If one does not want women to have the same rights as men, that IS a form of hate. There could be NO other reason for not wanting women to have equal rights. You said you do not like feminism..... I think you like going around in circles...... Are you saying you agree with and support feminism?
Uh, Ok, so? Well , I haven't seen anyone say that but if a person is intelligent and believes in equal rights they would be... (shrug) I didn't say that .. Ya, it is. The basis is women's equality (rights) ...so if one doesn't believe women should have equal rights, then one is a misogynist....one must hate women if one doesn't want them to have equal rihgts. It's pretty hard to say you believe in women's rights but NOT feminism . . .No, the old "haul out the Nazi thing " comparison doesn't come close to covering up misogyny. .....you sure made that confusing....what didn't you get about "1: the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes ??
This is only what you think. I know plenty of intelligent women who don't identify as Feminists because they know it is foolish to take pride in something you didn't do anything to achieve (i.e. your gender). These women see no point in identifying as "women" because they are not sheeple, they are individuals with their own agency. You kind of did. But, whatever. No. The most important thing to add is that Feminism advocates the use of government to force everyone else to conform to their beliefs. No, it is not hard at all. There is no contradiction in that notion and I will continue to identify as a believer in equal (negative) rights, but a non-believer in Feminism. It is exactly the same logic. And exactly that is my problem with Feminism; it is a form of Socialism and I don't like Socialism in any shape or form at all.
So you do not want women to have the same rights as men. That is misogyny. How can you not hate an entire group that you don't want to have equal rights? Maybe you won't or can't acknowledge that hate but why else would you not want women to have equal rights? (which is what feminism IS) You seem to need your own version of what feminism is and that's fine if you don't ever want to acknowledge the truth of what feminism REALLY is but YOU can't change the true meaning.
Exactly, that is an interesting and important question to ask too since the answer to that is the same as the original question I raised.
I encourage you do some reading because the answer is actually quite interesting and one would think that a Feminist would be interested in knowing what enabled the birth of the movement.
Pissed off women enabled the movement...and people who REALLY believed in equal rights....and post 141 is still there even if you ignore it
Wrong. Try again. If "oppression" has always been there (as Feminists argue), then how come "pissed off women" did not march and roam the streets in 500 BC? If you don't look at what actually happened prior and during 'First Wave Feminism', you will have an awfully difficult problem explaining this.
So, since you know the answer do share. What was the reason slaves didn’t organize in the 17th century it’s called organizing and consciousness raising . But even if it didn’t happen in the 1500s or the 1300s what is the difference? It happened in the 19 century and the 20th century in the 21st-century and is still happening. You seem to be hung up on the historical and I am more concerned about the present. I remember in the 70s men like you used the same arguments
The same reason I didn’t get pissed off that I needed a higher average than boys to go to the nyc colleges. I wasn’t aware of the injustice We accepted our roles and were silent. We were silent and at the same time we were being silenced. Nothing like mansplaining the women’s movement to women ...lol
You just don’t like the responses your getting from feminists......so you resort to,personal attacks. Nothing like a man explaining feminism to women
You still haven't responded to my question, so I try again; why is it that, in a conversation about Feminism, you bring up slavery? You asked me to tell you about slavery completely out of the blue and I am trying to get you to tell why you decided to change topics.
But women somehow have the right to explain "manliness" and "male privilege" to men? Um, i am sorry, but isn't that a bit...um...how do you say...hypocritic?
I wrote: You replied: There is no parallel. Either you ask me to respond to the original question or to the one you asked.
