My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell Releases Absurd Conspiracy Infomercial

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    Agree that his product is good he even convinced my very critical wife. I separate my view of his QANON idiocy from his product. My wife feels guilty that we have his products in all the bedrooms. Grandkids stay over so that torpedoed our "downsizing" a little.
     
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    This just goes to show how BEHIND the curve people and people of adjudication are.. If judges are so inept/confused of the concept of how Internet protocols work then they should be more accepting of those that do.. I bet they "Judges" dismiss tech like this because they are simply to arrogant to admit they lack a working knowledge on it.. I see the same thing with MANY people, they don't know so they make silly jokes to redirect attention to that fact..
     
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    Your assertion that "there is substantial evidence that Pink Unicorns do exist on Mars" is false.
    My assertion that there is substantial evidence that the election was rigged is absolutely true.

    That is why the capitol is guarded by thousands of armed troops and a wall. Our new garrison state will have to be maintained until the Biden administration proves that the election was not rigged.

    Which is not to say that the Biden administration's power to govern is entirely illegitimate or an example of government without representation. A rigged presidential election does not by itself justify impeachment, and it certainly does not justify either an insurrection or a second revolution.
     
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    I think the judges, all of them certified members of the ruling political class, were unwilling to do the job of several RP legislatures and the RP Senate to first stop the rigging of the election and then to nullify an election rigged with the cooperation of the opposition party.

    That also explains why there is no serious movement toward violent resistance, insurrection or revolution over what appears to have been a political/military coup. The USG will probably remain fundamentally stable for the remainder of the Biden/Harris presidency absent some horrific miscalculation and overreach. Anyone contemplating aggressive resistance is, IMO, a fool.
     
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    I won't ever use a Liddell pillow again
     
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    And Lindell has not "proved" that the election was rigged. He has presented a great deal of evidence that it was rigged, but many false propositions have been supported by a great deal of evidence.

    His use of "experts" to "prove" some of his assertions without demonstrating their expertise is an unfortunate error that undermines the credibility of his conclusions.
     
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    I to don't want anything overturned. But I would like it to be known that there were some serious anomalies and breach of protocols.. All this simply ignore it because people don't understand it is a bigger shame then having this even happen..
     
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    There are many good politically correct and healthy alternatives to Lindell's pillows.
    Goose down is not one of them.
     
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    Several RP legislatures and the RP Senate elected by Trump supporters, could have held full due process hearings to discover the truth. They chose not to do that. Reality really bites sometimes. Alas.
     
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    That simply plays back to EITHER party reps really wanted Trump in office.. They were worried his big mouth would expose the Big Boys Club..

    Now all is swell again, they look like they are working for us but behind closed doors they are actually WORKING US ;)
     
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    of course there is, but that isn't how it works. If you want to allege fraud, you get to prove your case. If you can't, you lose.
    there is no evidence the election was rigged for biden. Trumps DHS, trumps DOJ, trumps Attorney General, republican secretaries of state, republican governers, all 50 state election committes, every single court this has been in front of (over 60), republican appointed judges, trump appointed judges, all 9 supreme court justices have all shown you that.
     
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    That is the nature of government, as Tom Paine, Lenin and the Big Chomper have pointed out. ;-)

    “In effect, the large bureaucracies of the powerful subsidize the mass media, and gain special access by their contribution to reducing the media's costs of acquiring the raw materials of, and producing, news. The large entities that provide this subsidy become "routine" news sources have privileged access to the gates. Non-routine sources must struggle for access, and may be ignored by the arbitrary decision of the gatekeepers. It should also be noted that in the case of the largesse of the Pentagon and the State Department's Office of Public Diplomacy, the subsidy is at the taxpayers' expense, so that, in effect, the citizenry pays to be propagandized in the interest of powerful groups such as military contractors and other sponsors of state terrorism.” , Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media
     
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    First Google: evidence.
    Then Google: proof. It will help. :)
     
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    Absolutely, good post Dryad, refreshing to be honest!
     
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    My question is - what's in it for him? There are lots of loyal Trump followers who defend his every move and are adamantly convinced the election was stolen. But how many are willing to sink their own considerable money into something without some kind of return? As a businessman, he wouldn't be in business long if he just threw his money away at pet projects like this - without something in it for him...
     
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    He would be called a Patriot.. And a man of conviction.. Pretty hard to find them on either side of the isle I grant you that..
     
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    already knew the meanings of both, but I went ahead and googled them again.

    Yep, I was correct. There is no evidence or proof of election fraud or that the election was stolen from trump, Trumps DHS, trumps DOJ, trumps Attorney General, republican secretaries of state, republican governers, all 50 state election committes, every single court this has been in front of (over 60), republican appointed judges, trump appointed judges, all 9 supreme court justices have all shown you that
     
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    You have no evidence to back up any of those beliefs.

    There was a movement to violence and insurrection by the Trumpster deplorables.

    Trump egged it on that day, and for weeks in advance.

    And the world watched it on TV.

    And your fuhrer, who promised the mob he incited that he would be “with them all the way” promptly ran away.

    There is not “serious movement toward violent insurrection” (at least I hope not).

    That play failed on Jan 6th.

    When Trumpism showed the wold that the deplorables were perfectly capable of exceeding almost everyone’s worst expectations.
     
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    I disagree, but to each their own, all I know is I will never buy a Liddell pillow again
     
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    Again?

    Well, everybody makes mistakes!
     
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    yep, it was a mistake for me to ever buy a My Pillow, live and learn
     
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    Lindell spent most of his early career doing coke and getting involved in one failed bar after another. Then he discovered mail order.

    He isn’t going to be in business long.

    He peddles mail order pillows to the Fox Nation crowd on TV. He has no more gravitas than the guy who glues bricks together or the one who sells cheap cookware on TV.

    But wait, there’s more!

    This is what passes for political expertise.
     
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    I have often commented that most of the reactionary right is not much interested in facts or real journalism.

    Reactionaries, deplorables and Trumpsters keep proving it over and over again.

    There is no reason whatsoever to think that some direct mail guy from Minn knows anything about election law, or anything else in his crackpot political portfolio.

    He’s entertaining his customers by validating their prejudices.

    He knows, just as Fox, OANN and the rest do, that the audience doesn’t care if what he says is true.

    He also knows that he can lie to that audience today, and they’ll all be sitting in front of their TV’s tomorrow waiting for the next installment of made up right wing red meat.

    Conservative here and elsewhere prove this every single day.

    And the more ridiculous the claim is, or the more dubious the credibility of the source, the louder the Trumpsters scream in defense!

    Works every time.

    In fact, as this thread proves, you can recycle previously discredited lies afreash, and the right wing audience will act as if they never heard it before (also evident on this very thread).
     
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    I'm not a big tv fan so I miss quite a bit about current culture and advertising. I never knew who he was or about his pillows until I saw a meme with him and Trump. I would imagine he is getting "free" publicity for his company and probably thinks he can get Trump to buy his pillows for his hotels. I agree there is something in it for him. Nevertheless, he would be crazy to think Trump would be loyal in return (at least, I hope he's not counting on that).
     
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    Your reply is evidence that you have never really Googled either "evidence or "proof". ;-)

    Start here:

    "evidence
    [ ev-i-duhns ]

    See synonyms for: evidence / evidenced / evidencing on Thesaurus.com

    noun

    that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.

    something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign:

    His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever.

    Law. data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects."
    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/evidence
     

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