N.C. Senator - Fell Apart on MSNBC Interview and Stuns Hosts

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  1. Gatewood

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    Well there's the problem! Representatives and Senators are not supposed to support the president of either party unless doing so is best for their constituents. If that happens to coincide with the sitting president's wishes then great! But if instead the constituents would be better off if he or she went against the president's wishes then that's the way the voting should go. Otherwise the representative or senator is an anti-ethical piece of garbage.
     
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    Wow, evade, evade, evade and finally say no. If I hadn't watched the video I would not have believed it. I am not sure what President Obama's approval rating is in North Carolina, I think it is right around the national average of 42%, but...I guess wow sums it all up.
     
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    Sheik Mat

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    If we go to Arabic for “mate,” why not go there for “check” also? And “sheik mat” = the king dead, would be consistent and exact. (See Chess)
     
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    Yeah, that sounds good. But can you explain her vote when 58% of North Carolinian's opposed the ACA and yet she voted for it? Fact is she voted with Obama 96% of the time.
     
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    Simple . . . she IS an anti-ethical politician. I did say either/or, didn't I?
     
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    the R's won't win, at least in 2016 because they have no viable candidate to put up. They are all too extreme for moderates and independents.
     
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    If she didn't support the President and the Dem platform she would be a Repub. She should be running on her record of supporting the President.
     
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    Yeah and leftwingers said the same things about moderates John McCain and Mitt Romney. The good thing for the Left back then, however, was that the in-the-tank-for-Obama was totally in-the-tank-for-Obama and so they supported that false leftwing meme for Obama's political benefit. The bad thing about it for the Left where 2016 is concerned, however, is that after eight years of the Mainstream Media LYING to the nation about how wonderful Obama is . . . they are somewhat unlikely to believe without thought when the MSM intimates that a Republican presidential candidate is EVIL while the Democratic presidential candidate is ANGELICAL . . . um . . . especially when one is trying to paint Queen Hillary as angelical. Oh my!
     
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    Bwahahaha! It is so good to see the democrat bull poop machine meltdown before our very eyes!
     
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    Unfortunately for the right, there is no candidate that they can field that is ANGELICAL whom they can sell to the American electorate. Hence, you'll get stuck with Hillary (that's if she runs in the first place) like it or not. The perception among moderates and independent voters is that there is no happy medium with the republican candidates.
     
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    I'm not sure cutting corporate taxes would help. Its my understanding that many businesses already evade much of the taxes we try to charge.

    Cutting regulations? Can you provide some examples on which ones you would cut, and why you feel they are worthless/useless?

    I'd love to see immigration reform, something along the lines of heavily fining employers that hire illegal immigrants, and cutting any benefits illegal immigrants get to the bare bone (IE: Emergency health care, and that's pretty much it).

    Get rid of Obamacare? Only if they can replace it with something that still provides healthcare for everyone. Yes, even those that cannot afford to pay for it. We all pay anyway, when those people go to the ER. I'm open to any less expensive, humanitarian option.
     
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    Thanks to Obama the Republicans have a shot at taking the Senate. After a couple more years of golf and business as usual the people will probably be ready to elect a Republican because of the damage Obama has done to the dems. How does it feel knowing the American people think democrats suck worse than Republicans?
     
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    You might want to actually speak to independents and moderates before you make a statement like that..
     
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    The only Americans who count are the Dems in the Blue States. Who cares what Repubs think about anything? As long as the Dems in the Blue States support the Dem candidate the Dem will become President.
     
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    They all mock her for it, and of course she deserves it, but did any of them try to answer?
     
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    Sure they are doing it right, they said they made it fair for all and we would all be paying less. Hadn't you noticed the rate cheaper and the deductible raised a ga zillion dollars so others can be subsidized and some pay nothing?
    There is a name for that intricate little piece of mathematical genius, it escapes me right now...

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    "Obama has a lot on his place, like the oil spill.........."

    That was a real laugh out loud moment.
     
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    While I'd like to agree with that statement, it's a knee jerk assumption that I'm afraid is false in the long run.

    This mid term election seems to be bad news for the D's because people are fed up with Obama and his regime. They may also be fed up with the D's right now too but that won't last. This election will be a vote to protest against the D's, don't confuse that with people actually voting for conservatism because the R establishment sure as hell isn't presenting any conservative values, just a way of running big government slightly better then the D's.

    The R's are missing a once in a lifetime golden opportunity to win the votes of the 4 million voters who stayed home instead of voting for Romney.

    I'll skip the long explanation but a sure blueprint for what works to win votes and jump start the economy is 1980-1988

    In short, I'm not holding my breath for the R's to grow a set and actually represent their constituents with the exception of a select few who the establishment R's see as a threat and attack them just like the left.
     
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    And there you have it, the whole truth of the matter especially today. I agree. It use to be senators represented their state and the wishes of the people of their more than their party, but you have to go back 20-30 years ago or more.

    Today we are not electing representatives or senators to represent the people of their district or their state, we elected representatives and senators to represent their political parties once they get to Washington as they totally forget about the wishes, the wants and don't wants of the people who elected them in the first place.

    The problem in Washington is we have way too many Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats. Today it is always party first, America somewhere down the line. An old foggie like me can remember when the people came first, most political junkies of today can't, they weren't born yet.
     
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    Being that I'm an Independent I cannot tell you how it feels knowing the American people think democrats suck worse (if in fact what your saying is true). I do know that the democrats apparently suck so bad in NY that Cuomo (D) is leading Asterino (R) by over 26% at this point.
     
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    Being an independent, I have on occasion had discussions with friends who are moderates and independents. This is what I'm basing my viewpoint on.
     

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