National debt has increased $4 trillion under Obama

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  1. Inactive928

    Inactive928 Banned

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    Mmmm, incorrect. $787 billion, at least that's the way it was reported. You're welcome to source your claim, however (but please, not Rush or Hannity).

    By the way, you weren't parroting an idiot RNC talking point there, were you? :mrgreen:
     
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    Mmmm, partially incorrect. Obama led the charge to continue the Bush tax cuts on the middle class, while leading the charge to let them expire on the so-called wealthy.

    Republican Senate filibusters prevented him from doing this (resulting in a compromise wherein the cuts were extended for everyone), which makes your "wide majorities" claim incorrect as well.

    Your score is 1 out of a possible 3.

    Was that a parroted idiot RNC talking point? :confuse:
     
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    Well, at least they can spell it. Have you looked at some of these 'Republican' posts? :omg:
     
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    Bush always was an overachiever and wanted to outdo Reagan's deficit.
     
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    All 176 Republicans and seven Democrats voted against the Stimulus in the House. It was backed by 246 House Democrats.

    In the Senate just three Republicans voted for the package.

    The rebel votes were however enough under Congress rules to stop the Republican Party using blocking tactics to delay the stimulus plan, and it passed 60-38.

    Maybe you should call it a semi-bipartisan plan?
     
  6. Professor Peabody

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    You obviously have no idea how long it takes to get an appropriations bill through congress.
     
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    At the very least the debt would've increased just as much under a Republican administration. Republicans and Democrats are just two factions of the same party - the business party.
     
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    6 days? Clinton had nothing to do with it that would be Bush Sr.

    Just warrantless wiretapping, nothing was actually done to tighten domestic security.

    More talk and money spent, but you post no action taken domestically to tighten security

    The question was what did Clinton do domestically to secure the nation, try to stay on topic.

    OOOOo they talked about it but did this....

    They had him but let him go.....epic fail!

    The question was what did Clinton do domestically to secure the nation, alas still no answer but to let Bin Laden go when the Sudan offered to extradite him to us.

    The raid with cruise missiles failed just like all of Clinton's anti terrorist efforts.

    The question was what did Clinton do domestically to secure the nation?

    The question was what did Clinton do domestically to secure the nation? Still just another Clinton anti terrorism failure. Guess hre should have taken him when the Sudan offered him up on a silver platter.
     
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    Continued..........

    For a President who allegedly focused on counter-terrorism, these creeps operated right under their noses when where to look was should have been easy for anyone with a brain.


    Unfit to lead except with his crotch I guess.

    The question was what did Clinton do domestically to secure the nation?

    The question was what did Clinton do domestically to secure the nation?

    How about this memo?

     
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    A little more....

    Did Clinton have the FBI monitor the flight schools? All the threats involved aircraft. Look at how Clinton admin and the FBI dropped the ball. They knew all this in 1998 and 1999, Atta and the Boys attended flight school in the spring of 2000!!!!! By the time Bush took office they had already taken their flight school training and disappeared.
     
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    So tell us what Bush did to prevent 9/11 in the 8 1/2 months he was president, during which time he managed to find the time block funding for abortions, channel federal money to "faith based" organizations, and to pass a massive tax cut that mostly benefited the wealthiest?
     
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    Originally Posted by Iriemon
    So tell us what Bush did to prevent 9/11 in the 8 1/2 months he was president, during which time he managed to find the time block funding for abortions, channel federal money to "faith based" organizations, and to pass a massive tax cut that mostly benefited the wealthiest?
     
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    Answered above. After the attack in the first month of his presidency, there were no other foreign terrorist attacks on US soil in his presidency. His numerous counterterrorism efforts, for which he was criticized by Republicans, were detailed in my post and the Wiki article.

    What about this memo: Just a month before the 9/11 attacks:

    August 6 2001
    Bin Laden Determined to Attack US

    The millennium plotting in Canada in 1999 [thwarted will Clinton was president] may have been part of Bin Ladin's first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the US

    We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a [deleted text] service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Shaykh" 'Umar' Abd aI-Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.

    Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

    The FBI is conducting approximately 70 investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers Bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or Bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives.


    http://agonist.org/annex/pdb.htm

    36 days before the attack Bush is warned that Bin Laden is determined to attack the US and there is suspicious activity consistent with hijackings and attacking buildings in New York.

    So tell us what Bush did to prevent 9/11 in the 8 1/2 months he was president, during which time he managed to find the time block funding for abortions, channel federal money to "faith based" organizations, and to pass a massive tax cut that mostly benefited the wealthiest?
     
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    Just a tidbit of fact for you. You have spent close to 1 trillion on each of your recent wars. I dont even need to touch on your war on drugs. Your government expects a national debt. They bank on it because they spend so much money propigating thier war and conservatism
     
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    Check your facts. Your picture is wrong.

    It should say "Republicans" since it was Ron George and George with their tax cuts that ran up the vast bulk of the debt.

    But then, truthfulness as never been a concern for you.
     
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    Its not Bush's fault, get a grip.

    Youre flailing...
     
  19. Iriemon

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    Of course it's not. Nothing is Bush's fault.

    The fact he took office with a surplus and left with $5 trillion more debt and the biggest deficit of all time can't be his fault.

    He's not a Democrat.
     
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    No it was 4 trillion, and Obama is wasting no time beating 8 years of GWB's spending in only 3 years....

    [​IMG]

    People really arent that stupid.... They know whats going on and who is to blame. You just look silly blaming Bush for what Obama does....
     
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    Your country cant even try him for breaking your own laws. Money talks I guess. I hope both bushes catch a bullet to the head.
     
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    Id rather we do it with votes.
     
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    No, he's no Democrat - but he was certainly was heading in the Democrat direction.

    Code:
    Bush - $2 trillion added to debt in 8 years
    2001    128.2
    2002   -157.8
    2003   -377.6
    2004   -412.7
    2005   -318.3
    2006   -248.2
    2007   -160.7
    2008   -458.6
    [B]Total [COLOR=Red]-2005.7[/COLOR]
    [/B]
    Obama - $2.7 trillion in 2 years
    2009  -1412.7
    2010  -1293.5
    [B]Total [COLOR=Red]-2706.2[/COLOR][/B]
     
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    01/23/2001 5,732,723,749,861.27
    01/23/2009 10,620,397,126,433.52

    http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

    Some people are that stupid. Either that or they are gullible and allow themselves to be misinformed by right wing propaganda.
     
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    No surprise Bush totals are lower when he started with a 128 billion surplus and Obama started with a 1,412 billion deficit.

    I'm not sure what you mean by the "Democratic direction, though.

    You data shows how the deficit decreased in Obama's first year.

    And here's the data from the previous Democratic president:

    1993 -255.1
    1994 -203.2
    1995 -164.0
    1996 -107.4
    1997 -21.9
    1998 69.3
    1999 125.6
    2000 236.2

    The Democratic direction is deficits decreasing.

    During Bush's terms they dramatically worsened.

    So I'd have to disagree you could say that Bush was headed in the Democratic direction on the budgets.
     

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