National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Troianii, Aug 1, 2012.

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Would you support my proposal?

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  3. I would support it, with some minor changes.

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  1. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think that the National Minimum Age Drinking Act of 1984 should be repealed. I'm 23, so I'm not trying to benefit from it, but the very idea that we establish 21 as adulthood, when people can drink, but require 18 year olds to sign up for the draft. What we're saying is that they're still boys, not mature enough to drink alcohol, but mature enough to be forced to carry a gun and take a bullet for our country.

    Not that I think it's at the forefront or that it would be passed, but here's what I would propose: we ammend the National Minimum Age Drinking Act of 1984 to keep the legal drinking age at 21, but we send out draft papers prior to 18, and send them back a card verifying that they've signed up for the draft. Their state would be notified, so that in case they lose their card they could get a replacement. This card would give them the right to purchase and consume alcohol under the same rights and obligations as a 21 year old. Those with a card would be the only exception to the Act.

    If you were in Congress, would you vote to support this new proposal?
     
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    BringDownMugabe Well-Known Member

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    Either make it 21 to enter the military and to drink or 18 to drink and enter the military. There shouldn't be a difference between 18 and 21 when it comes to these issues.
     
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    The XL Well-Known Member

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    I'm 23 as well and I agree. Who has the right to put age blocks on peoples rights, especially considering 18 year olds are adults?

    It's unconstitutional as well, a clear violation of both the 9th and 21st Amendments.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh yeah, that's true. I wasn't even thinking of that. 14th?
     
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    Sure, elements of the 14th Amendment should protect from a drinking age that discriminates against young adults. So that's the 9th, 14th, and 21st Amendments the drinking age goes against. But, in the America dominated by liberals and neocons, who the (*)(*)(*)(*) cares about the constitution and the rights of adults?
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Libertarians.
     
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    I agree. I don't know why countries all over the world have no drinking limits and it isn't a big deal, but it's such taboo here.. We are an odd country when it comes to our Freedoms.
     
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    There shouldn't be a minimum drinking age. Parents should decide when their kids can drink. Catholic children should be allowed to drink communion wine.
     
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    The XL Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. Which is why I'm one.
     
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    I don't think I could support it. The largest issue with drinking in America is that it is stigmatized as evil, sinful etc. Therefore our children are not exposed to alcohol until much later in life. In comparison, children in Germany actually are exposed to alcohol much earlier in life and understand the risks that are associated with drinking. American youth tend to binge drink which we all know can be dangerous.

    Thank the religious right.
     
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    The Supreme Court ruled its not unconstitutional in South Dakota v. Dole

    Nice try though.

    18 yr. olds are not responsible enough to drink yet which is clearly evident if you've ever been to a frat party. When they go into the military they are supervised and are not just given a gun and sent off without training. Now if you'd like to have a drill instructor present while these 18 yr. olds are beer bonging kegs then I'll say that's ok.
     
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    I'd have no problem with this. 21 is outrageous. Legal adult at 18. Can have sex as early as 16 in some states. Can join military at 17. Can smoke at 18. But 21 to drink?

    And big gov Reagan signed that (*)(*)(*)(*), who neocons adore for whatever reason,
     
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    The XL Well-Known Member

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    18 years olds are adults, just like 21 year olds, or 50 year olds. You have no right to tell them what they can or cannot consume. Nor can the government.

    And who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) what the Supreme Court ruled? They get it wrong most of the time, they have less of a grasp on the Constitution than I did when I was 17. It clearly violates 3 different amendments.
     
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    The States can set a drinking age whether you agree with or not. And the Supreme Court has validated that no matter what you think of it. They said it doesn't violate the Constitution and their word is law no matter what you think.

    I'd suggest that if you want your opinion to matter you go to law school and work your way up to hopefully get nominated to the High Court where your opinion might actually be worth something.

    No one cares what you think is constitutional or not.
     
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    You want 18 years olds to not drink? Then make the adult age 21, give them free schooling until 21, don't call them for jury duty until 21, don't allow them to join the military until 21, don't make males register for the selective service until 21, etc, etc.

    How dare anyone justify taking an adults freedoms.
     
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    Again, who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) what the corrupt, incompetent Supreme Court said? It's a clear violation of the 9th, 14th and 21st Amendments. Plain as day.

    It's not a states rights thing. Reagan and that particular congress strongarmed them into doing it. That small government fellow. You remember him
     
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    Not according to them it isn't and they were given the final word on any judicial cases brought into their Court.

    Nobody cares what you think. I say its not a violation so why does your opinion carry more weight than mine?
     
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    *cough*Obamacare*cough*
     
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    It has nothing to do with my opinion. Read those 3 Amendments, there should be no controversy. Also, under those Amendments, drugs for all adults, including 18-20, should be legal.
     
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    Age setting is a clear violation of the 21st Amendment, for sure. You could make the drinking age 100, therefore effectively reinstalling prohibition, if age setting was a part of that amendment.
     
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    Your right, there is no controversy.

    The Supreme Court has settled this already.
     
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    The XL Well-Known Member

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    They can rule whatever they want on any issue, it doesn't actually make in Constitutional. They're blatantly ignoring the Constitution.

    No one has the right to tell an adult what they can or cannot do with their bodies, and they don't have the right to pick and choose who has more rights.
     
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    They alone decide what's constitutional.

    I tell you what. Why don't you sit outside 7/11 and buy beer for teenagers then go ahead and argue your case with the cops when they bust you. I'm sure you can successfully plead your case in front of a judge.
     
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    I couldn't, because the corrupt courts ruled the wrong way.

    But yeah, God forbid I bought alcohol for grown adults. What a crime. All your doing is defending a corrupt system, nothing more.
     
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    Well that corrupt system controls your life so the Courts decision does matter because it dictates how YOU act. You may not like it but you live by it.

    So no matter how loud you scream your opinion doesn't matter.
     

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