Naval Sea Battle In Azov Sea - Russia captured 3 Ukrainian Ships

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Without the globalism of the Soviet system, there's no reason for Russia to want hold on to nations like Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary etc. I don't see what they would gain from them - only trouble. What burdens Putin though, are the 20 million living outside of Russia - and many in an apartheid system.

    Russia doesn't need more land, but the Russians who have lived on lands for generations feel that it belongs to them - and that's the problem. Putin has offered free land to all ethnic Russians and Slavs in the world who want to preserve their language and heritage - even the Poles.

    What Moscow never expected was the underhanded antics of Washington to alienate them from Russia, and the antics to break up the Federation.

    Chechnya was important since its pipe lines ran through it, so it was a matter of survival for Moscow. CIA agents were working with the terrorists there, as they are doing now in Syria. Actually there's a picture of Yatsenuk in Chechnya with them.

    The only thing I heard Putin say was that he would love a loose union of Russian and Slavic states the way it was in the Middle Ages.
     
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    Most American weapons systems do not work well when they first enter service for myriad reasons too complex to go into here.
     
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    Stupiduty must be banned.

    Actually, there is such international treaty: Agreement of 2003 between Russia and Ukraine on the Sea of Azov.
    Ukraine still didn't quit it.
     
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    Those were buffer states as per Soviet understanding of the Warsaw pact. There are tons of reasons for Russia to cling to them today. Ask Orban, he'll tell some good stories about how he commands Attila's offspring there.
     
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    According to which...???? Sea of Azov and Kerch straight pass regulations -after it got stolen by Russia- are two very different things.

    Idiocy must be banned...
     
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    You are so stopid.
     
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    I can only repeat - Ukraine didn't quit the Russia-Ukraine agreement on the Sea of Azov. According to it, the sea is internal waters of these two nations. All issues, including navigation ones, are to be resolved through negotiations between these two countries.
     
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    And you are stinky turkish bastard.
     
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    Why should Ukraine adhere to an international agreement with Russia when Russia is violating Ukrainian sovereignty in egregious fashion and with no sign of stopping?
     
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    There is no Apartheid system for Russians abroad. It's pure Russian agitprop.
     
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    Yeah... Thanks for your admission of the fact that your entire post with that map on it is meaningless and full of Bullshittorical arguments because there is not an internationally recognized treaty that regulates the passes thru the strait as they are regulated for the Marmara Sea straits by Turkey.
    Why are you so stopid?
     
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    Have no idea, actually. They may not adhere the agreement. Then they have to cancel their sign under this agreement and quit. Why they don't do that? Ask Ukraine.
     
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    Where are the U.S.S. Caron and U.S.S. Yorktown when you need them.
     
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    What in your brain is "internationally recognized treaty"?
    Russia and Ukraine are two sovereign nations. They signed the agreement. It's international. Is it clear?
     
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    You don't have no idea but you can post stopit things like comparisons with Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits.
    Why so stopit you?
     
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    Are they now? Where's Russia's ending? And who gives a sht about that? Other than your lovely Jihadi Iran of course?
     
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    They are next to your study desk Day... The ones you made last summer remember?
     
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    This is why I assumed it was the Western Ukrainian experience under the Austrian Hungarian Empire that made them see Slavs as being inferior, rather than the centuries they were under Poland - which is a Catholic Slavic country.

    From what I read there was a lot of friction between the Catholics in Poland who followed the Latin rite, and the Western Ukrainians that followed the Byzantine rite and had married priests - since they were both under the Pope.

    That the W. Ukrainians joined the Nazis and committed crimes against the Poles, means that they looked down on the Poles as well as the Russians - so it had to be their Slavic inheritance that they considered inferior - and it could only have come from their experience with Austria Hungary.

    Anyway this is my opinion.
     
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    What are you talking about?
     
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    Russians are Orthodox Slavs... So what about them? Is that why they are seen as losers by the noble Europeans?
     
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    I thought you were talking about model carriers, sorry my bad...
     
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    It's hard to keep talking to such provocative, stupid, hateful person like you.

    Montreux Convention was signed by 10 countries, it's international.
    The agreement on Azov was signed by 2 countries. It's international too.
    And none of these two countries have cancelled their signs, so the agreement is valid.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah right, tell me another one. My illusions died with Syria.
     
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    What's the Russian word for incapable of understanding?
     
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    Sorry, I have to put you in my ignore list.
    No sense to waste time on you.
     

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