Nazi murderers of Jews still walking around USA

The Stalinists were just as totalitarian and vicious as the Nazis were. How that somehow makes them solely Jewish (as some of the modern Jew-haters like to assert) is not so obvious. Stalin and Beria were not Jews, and they ordered the most atrocities against humanity. As Stalin once said:

A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.

 

Okay.

To employ the claim that hitler eliminated the "wrong" jews is a stupid, disgusting schoolyard attempt at a racist pus filled troll.

To employ the claim that the "many" of the survivors of the holocaust were not at risk displays an either a profound ignorance of history or a lame attempt at nazi apologism.

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just following your lead.

 

They should be thankful,in spite of the brutality the retribution is in kindness,
but the question is are they reluctant before in following orders or did it with so much enthusiasm.

 

What a surprising lack of knowledge of ww2 and the various non-german nazi participants in the holocaust.

I didn't realize you don't know much about that period of time, hence my shock at such an ignorant question.

When you make such profoundly ignorant statements about a subject that rabid anti-zionists claim is the source of such extreme guilt that it was a primary reason that the UN partition plan, you'll have to excuse my assumption that what you claim is a legitimate question was a deliberate hate barb.

Interesting that you knew enough about kapos to make the remark, but not enough about non german nazi parties and the ridiculous "aryans" only qualification. Far be it for me to suggest that this response is merely an lame excuse for what was originally a hate barb. No, your posts generally aren't that hypocritical, are they?

WHAT PART OF NAZI WAR CRIMINAL DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

or did you fail to actually comprehend the OP in the first place.

As for insulting you, I haven't, just because you don't like what I say, doesn't mean its an insult. read the rules.
As for your request for an apology, I will humbly do so if and when I deem that I am in the wrong. Unlike many around here I have no problem in admitting when I am in the wrong.

 

I'm sorry to be the cause of this excruciatingly pompous and puffed-up picayunery, folks, but does anybody with any knowledge of the machinations of the Nazi Party know if it admitted ' non-Aryans ' or if they were just trench-diggers and cannon-fodder later in the war ?

 

Where would all your inventiveness be with out Germans? And the rest, who were bought during the Brain drain of the World?

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Believe it or not, there were even 'Joooos' in the German Nazi Party

 

prove it with evidence

 

Rubbish ,

A) _ Jack /MYSELF + others have been over that point several times before here on PF with you :

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" In order to justify the state of Israel, Zionists collaborated with the Nazi and, despite the blood on their hands, continue to exploit the holocaust for their political benefit. Rabbi Shonfeld calls the Zionists "war criminals" who usurped the leadership of the Jewish people, betrayed their trust, and after their annihilation, reaped the moral capital. - =

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"Sometimes it is necessary to sacrifice the few in order to save the many," Moshe Sharett, a former Israeli Prime Minister said at Patra memorial service in 1958. 252 people murdered by the people they trusted. How's that for fanatical? But the Zionists have the blood of many more Jews on their hands.

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ZIONIST -COLLABORATORS

During the holocaust, Jewish life had no value unless it promoted the Zionist cause. "One goat in Israel is worth more than the whole Diaspora," Yitzhak Greenbaum, head of the Jewish Agency's "Rescue Committee" said.


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B) Majority of Jews who who went to Palestine were not "Holocost survivors" - they came from countries where they'd already received "safe refuge " therefore NOT at any risks. Large numbers had already found safe refuge in US/ British commonwealth /LCentral/Sth America's - Hell - some Jews even temporarily managed to find refuge in Arab lands, before being enticed by Zionist leaders to go to Palestine.
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Here's more

"Rabbi Moshe Shonfeld accuses the Zionists of collaborating in the Nazi slaughter of European Jewry directly and indirectly.
The charges are contained in his book, "Holocaust Victims Accuse" (1977) which is on line.

Rabbi Shonfeld calls the Zionists "war criminals" who usurped the leadership of the Jewish people, betrayed their trust and, after their annihilation, reaped the moral capital.

Shonfeld states: "The Zionist approach that Jewish blood is the anointing oil needed for the wheels of the Jewish state is not a thing of the past. It remains operable to this very day."

Other books on this theme by Jews include: Edwin Black, "The Transfer Agreement"; Ben Hecht, "Perfidy," M.J. Nurenberger "The Scared and the Damned"; Joel Brand, "Satan and the Soul"; Chaim Lazar, "Destruction and Rebellion"; and Rabbi Michael Dov Ber Weismandel "From the Depth."

The implication, which I will explore later, is that Zionism, at the top, is not a Jewish movement. In the words of veteran Israeli politician Eliezar Livneh, "The Zionist heritage had in it something flawed to begin with."


SHOCKING ''HIGHLIGHTS'' OF RABBI SHONFELD'S BOOK:



• While European Jews were hostage to the Nazis, Zionist leaders in America deliberately provoked and enraged Hitler. They began in 1933 by initiating a worldwide boycott of Nazi goods. Dieter von Wissliczeny, Adolph Eichmann's lieutenant, told Rabbi Weissmandl that in 1941 Hitler flew into a rage when U.S. Zionist Rabbi Stephen Wise, in the name of the entire Jewish people, "declared war on Germany". Hitler fell on the floor, bit the carpet and vowed: "Now I'll destroy them. Now I'll destroy them." In Jan. 1942, he convened the "Wannsee Conference" where the "final solution" took shape.


• Rabbi Shonfeld says the Nazis chose Zionist activists to run the "Judenrats" and to be Jewish police or Kapos. "The Nazis found in these 'elders' what they hoped for, loyal and obedient servants who because of their lust for money and power, led the masses to their destruction." The Zionists were often intellectuals who were often "more cruel than the Nazis" and kept the trains' final destination a secret. In contrast to secular Zionists, Shonfeld says Orthodox Jewish Rabbis refused to collaborate and tended their beleaguered flocks to the end.


• Rabbi Shonfeld cites numerous instances where Zionists sabotaged attempts to organize resistance, ransom and relief. They undermined an effort by Vladimir Jabotinsky to arm Jews before the war. They stopped a program by American orthodox Jews to send food parcels to the ghettos (where child mortality was 60%) saying it violated the boycott. They thwarted a British parliamentary initiative to send refugees to Mauritius, demanding they go to Palestine instead. They blocked a similar initiative in the US Congress. At the same time, they rescued young Zionists. Chaim Weizmann, the Zionist Chief and later first President of Israel said: "Every nation has its dead in its fight for its homeland. The suffering under Hitler are our dead." He said they "were moral and economic dust in a cruel world."


• Rabbi Weismandel, who was in Slovakia, provided maps of Auschwitz and begged Jewish leaders to pressure the Allies to bomb the tracks and crematoriums. The leaders didn't press the Allies because the secret policy was to annihilate non-Zionist Jews. The Nazis came to understand that death trains and camps would be safe from attack and actually concentrated industry there. (See also, William Perl, "The Holocaust Conspiracy.')

None of the above is intended to absolve the Nazis of responsibility. However the holocaust could have been prevented or at least alleviated had the Zionist leadership behaved honourably.

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Dirty little Zionist deeds most of todays Jews would rather not be reminded of.



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Here is a beginning

http://rense.com/general43/jewserved.htm

 

serving in the Luftwaffe & Wehrmacht makes someone a Nazi party member??????????


lolololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I said here is a beginning, no?


I was about to find the interesting and more complex stuff for you but .................... hey, now you can bloody well wait! ...people have no patience now a days !

 

Read and learn :

 

The thread is about 4 Nazis hiding in America and not about Stalin and USSR. But thanks for trying to protect the anti-Semites that hijack threads to promote their ploy of blaming Jews for everything. You can run along now too.

 

don't laugh too much - there was a few half-quarter Jews (Mischlinge) amongst the members in the NSDAP early days - same as there was amongst the Bolsheviks in Russia. Jews have always been able to penetrate every conceivable political
movement where ever they thought they could gain any sort of advantage.

Just look at America today ? They're on all sides . ready to go with whichever side which would serve them best.


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those were soldiers, not Nazis.

learn the damn difference.

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what, Jews arent allowed to be Republicans and Democrats?

all Jews have to be the same thing????????????????

your logic is very flawed.

 

the stop with the excruciatingly pompous and puffed up picayeunery. Talk about playing to their audience.

Do you have a problem with doing you own incredibly simple and quick research? A simple google search will provide you with the obvious answers.

Amazing you know about kapos but not about serbian nazis or yugoslavian nazis or croatian nazis or albanian nazis or french nazis or norwegien nazis, etc etc etc etc. All glorious members of their own little version of the nazi party. Sure, many didn't use the "national socialist" moniker, but all were fascist and all supported the principle platforms of the founding german party.

here the types of members:

Nazi Party Membership

here's a long list of nazi parties, unfortunately you have to wade thru them to find the ww2 contemporaneous ones.

National_Socialist_Party

here's a description of all the axis powers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers#Origins_and_creation

I picked this little gem out for your edification:
Syrian_Social_Nationalist_Party

I suppsoe you could be confusing the intial membership requirement for the waffen SS. But that fell by the wayside at the start of the war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS

I still at am a loss to explain the apparent huge hole in your knowledge. But if you insist your initial response wasn't a deliberate kneejerk hate barb, I suppose there are those that will believe you.

 

Ah, so you also believe that foreigners and non-Aryans were allowed to join the National Socialist German Workers' Party . No, I don't believe that the men named in the thread can be rightfully termed ' members of the National Socialist German Workers Party ' , do you ? They appear to Polish, for starters. I think you're confused , from your own links, with other groups seconded to, or otherwise associated with the Nazis. Anybody - without an agenda- with any knowledge of the actual Nazi Party membership requirements ? I'm getting the notion that many influenced by Nazism were not actually Nazis themselves. You might not believe that's much of a distinction, but then you're not being accused of war crimes in the US of AIPAC.

 

Yes many times before yet you still keep coming back with the same debunked garbage. Its right out of the playbook.

http://www.jewishgen.org/ForgottenCamps/Exhib/HowtoEngl.html
17. Although all of your arguments will be consistently blown to smithereens, just wait a few days or weeks and then re-post them.

18. Remember that the revisionist community is peopled mainly by racists, white-supremacists, Israel-bashers, and Nazis. This means that everyone except these kinds of people will dismiss you. But don't let that stop you. Don't let your Fellini-esque, internally inconsistent, un-researched, hypocritical distortions and lies prevent you from continuing to post. After all, you're fighting for the truth (as you'd like it to be).

I mean who is surprised that a Neturia Karta rabbi would excoriate zionists. You are using a quote from a dedicated jewish anti-zionist AND generally accepted religious wingnut.


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two whoppers here.
First, Sharrat doesn't appear to actually say that. It would have certainly be included in this little publication about his diaries
http://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/essays/rokach.html
and this site:
http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story639.html

but it does appear on stormfront, and the usual list of jew hating suspects.

As for your mischaracterization of the sinking of the Patras, you parrot yet another gross distortion of truth:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_disaster

where and when did he say this? I see this quote on a lot of anti-zionist and revisionists sites, but never in context. Can you supply some context to this supposed quote please?

OH, I see. so the refugees who fled for their lives were not actually survivors because they weren't in danger any longer. Makes perfect sense to a idiot, I'm sure.

Another gross mischaracterization for which denialist/revisionists are famous. got any actual evidence to substantiate your claim or is this simply another one from the playbook:

1. Creamed Mush with Fog Sauce -- Never provide evidence for your assertions. In fact, respond to demands for evidence the way Dracula responds to crucifixes. Do anything you can to avoid it. Throw insults. Change the subject. Obfuscate. Laugh derisively. Claim you already gave the evidence or that someone else did. But never provide any evidence yourself (unless you provide an incomplete or incomprehensible citation along with it).

as mentioned he is Nuterei Karta, and a wingnut.

for sure the auther of your little cut and paste special never read these books and completely misrepresents their "themes".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transfer_Agreement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy_(book)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._J._Nurenberger#The_Scared_and_the_Doomed

Brands book is about Kastner and the fact his daddy was a good pal of that scumbag. as is Hechts.
Lazars book is about jewish partisans fighting and murdering civilians along side their russian allies.


A simple search on that one paragraph, highlights how jew hating propaganda is dispersed across the internet.

But of course you knew this. You also did not acknowledge you simply lifted with without attribution from rense.

Its amazing how stupid you think the PF community is, as you try passing off this jew hate crap as your own.

How.....human of them. You'll find that most honest people will not deny the nefarious deeds of their ancestors and predecessors, except if you happen to be a nazi apologist or rabid anti-zionist.





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What a load of (*)(*)(*)(*)ing horse(*)(*)(*)(*), not surprising coming from you though, the vast majority of Kapos were white criminals not Jews, the Jews who survived were used as slave labor and to pull the bodies out of the gas chambers and place them into the ovens they were, also, used in the Sonderaktion 1005 project to remove corpses from the mass graves in the Nazi's attempts to cover up their crimes.

 

how tedious your mischaracterizations are getting absurd.

I never said that foreigners were allowed to join the german nazi party. In fact I was explicit in my statement":
"All glorious members of their own little version of the nazi party. Sure, many didn't use the "national socialist" moniker, but all were fascist and all supported the principle platforms of the founding german party".

Amazing. I get the feeling that you think you are actually being clever.
Even when presented with the evidence, you refuse to accept it.
Even when a clear statement is made you attempt to obfuscate.
At least there is a consistency to the intellectual dishonesty of many of your posts.

the repeated use of US of AIPAC is both an anti-zionist and anti semitic term designed to propagate the myth of the Protocol's global jewish conspiracy.

Nothing like showing true colours every once in a while, wot?

 

HUH ?
There you go again showing confirming that most of the time you haven't a F'ing clue what you're talking about
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Albania was the only Muslim majority country in Europe not to surrender its Jews.. Albania not only saved Albanian Jews from the Nazis, but, in fact, Albania was the only country in Europe that had a larger Jewish population at the end of the war than before the war.


Not one Albanian Jew or any other Jew who came to Albania for protection was turned over to the Nazis.

There was a film called “The Optimists” which tells the virtually unknown story of how 50,000 Jews living in Bulgaria survived the Holocaust despite intensive Nazi efforts to deport them to death camps.[/

Fifty thousand Jews didn’t die because Bulgarian Christians and Muslims found ways to protect Jews from their would-be murderers. - - The Albanian Refik Vesili who — as a 16-year-old — saved eight Jews by hiding them in his family’s mountain home. - The English-Albanian plaque in the Jewish Corner of Tirana’s National Museum lists the names of 33 Muslim Albanians who have been honored by Yad Vashem, and leaves space for other people “whose names remain unrecorded.” -

Yad Vashem Honors Albanian Muslims Among Righteous Gentiles

http://thenewjew.wordpress.com/2007...rs-albanian-muslims-among-righteous-gentiles/


http://thenewjew.wordpress.com/




read and learn :



16th Moslem Partisan Brigade, a 15000 members strong anti-Fascist Bosnian Muslim resistance force in World War II

http://www.constantinereport.com/bosnia-in-world-war-ii-resistance-and-treachery/

 

Let us use this guy as an example. His native country, Lithuania, doesn't want him. He committed crimes in Poland, but apparently they don't want him either. He can't be prosecuted here, so what do we do with him?

 

Because they were considered Mischlings not Jews by the Nazi authorities.

As Rigg fully documents for the first time, a great many of these men did not even consider themselves Jewish and had embraced the military as a way of life and as devoted patriots eager to serve a revived German nation. In turn, they had been embraced by the Wehrmacht, which prior to Hitler had given little thought to the "race" of these men but which was now forced to look deeply into the ancestry of its soldiers.

The process of investigation and removal, however, was marred by a highly inconsistent application of Nazi law. Numerous "exemptions" were made in order to allow a soldier to stay within the ranks or to spare a soldier's parent, spouse, or other relative from incarceration or far worse. (Hitler's own signature can be found on many of these "exemption" orders.) But as the war dragged on, Nazi politics came to trump military logic, even in the face of the Wehrmacht's growing manpower needs, closing legal loopholes and making it virtually impossible for these soldiers to escape the fate of millions of other victims of the Third Reich.


http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html

 

Complete and utter farce, they collaborated only in so far as they supported the transfer agreement in order to save Jews, you see under the laws of the British Mandate only Jews who had $1,000 in capital could enter and obtain residency, however, under the Nuremberg Laws and the Aryan paragraph contained in the Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service all Jewish assets had been seized, so in order to obtain Jewish assets Jews in Germany were forced to break the boycott initiated by the Jewish community in America by selling German goods. That the Zionists supported rescue over relief, is not "collaboration" in any sense of the term. Furthermore; you people are freaking laughable, in other threads I have seen posts where you people claim that the Jews declared war on Germany which in actuality was a peaceful economic boycott, and now it's the Jews were collaborators for breaking said boycott.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Black.html

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I'm sure the Israelis would love a crack at him.