Nearly 200 National Guard troops test positive for the china virus

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    "Panic Porn"?:roflol:

    Is that what the RW is calling the aftermath of a Trump-Incited Deadly Act of Domestic Terrorist Insurrection?

    "Panic Porn"?:bored:

    Anyway, what does that have to do with the OP Topic of the NG getting the Trump Virus?

    Oh well, I guess one person's "Panic Porn" is another person's "Pre-Emptive Security Measures".

    But, I do agree that Trump is 100% Responsible for these NG Cases of the Trump Virus.

    Had Trump not Incited a Deadly Act of Domestic Terrorism on Jan.6th, then there would not have been the need to the overwhelming NG presence to safeguard the Inauguration.

    This is 100% on Trump.
     
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    Plagues are common during military occupations and sieges.
    Just one of the many of the predictable costs of maintaining a garrison state.

    "Separated from the plague by a winter's immmunity, the Scots had gathered to attack the "southrons". With spring the plague came to the Scottish army. Within a few days half the troops had died or were dying. The survivors fled and took the epidemic with them to the countryside."
    Medieval Life & The Hundred Years War, The Plague's Effects on the War, DENO 1997.
    http://hundredyearswar.com/Books/History/Plagues_.htm
     
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    the military would not of been there but for Trump supporters that stormed the capital and those still wanting to do more attacks on our government
     
  4. Ddyad

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    I tend to support Trump, and like many Trump supporters, I opposed the use of federal troops or police against AntiFa/BLM. Nevertheless, many Republicans still tend to reflexively support the police and the criminal justice system. A bad habit that is now infecting a Left that used to know better.

    "people who planted pipe bombs & hauled vans full of weapons & explosives".

    That is the kind of thing the FBI used to do. Surely you know that.
     
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    Baloney. The attack on the capitol could have been stopped easily with minimal use of force by local police. Washington DC is always jam crammed with police.
     
  6. Ddyad

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    Anyone in a "crazy militia" is probably woking for the FBI or some other secret police agency.

    "The FBI did not reserve such measures for those who might engage in violence, but also tried to provoke violence by peaceful groups. An FBI operative inside the San Diego Minutemen became a leader in a secret army organization which terrorized a Marxist professor of economics at San Diego State University who was active in the antiwar movement. A former FBI agent provocateur recalls how he led the Camden Nine to conduct a raid on a local draft board that resulted in their arrest and prosecution by the FBI and the Justice Department:

    I taught them everything they knew . . . how to cut glass and open windows without making any noise.... How to open file cabinets without a key.... How to climb ladders easily and walk on the edge of the roof without falling.... I began to feel like the Pied Piper."
    THE LAWLESS STATE, The crimes of the U.S. Inteligence Agencies, by Morton Halperin, Jerry Berman, Robert Borosage, Christine Marwick, Penguin Books, 1976.
    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/NSA/Lawless_State.html

    Attn: members of "crazy militas": Quit now and stay home.
     
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    The Portland protests are not without cause.
     
  8. bigfella

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    Well I'm glad you held to your principles. You were one of the few.

    The issue here for me is the uniqueness of the situation. This was a Presidential Inauguration two weeks after the sitting President incited a mob to storm the Capitol. There was a cedible threat at the time and I have no doubt that the FBI was picking up all manner of things online afterward. I'm not hung up on a particular number of NG troops as the 'correct' figure to ensure deterrence, but a show of force was definitely justified. These troops weren't beating anyone up or hauling them off to detention without charge. Other than some local residents having their free movement impeded no one's rights were abused.

    Had it been a largely black & left wing mob that stormed the Capitol (though there is no way that would have happened - see the BLM protest in DC) Trump supporters on this forum would have made even the most extreme left wing voices look mild.

    You'll need to be more specific. Your meaning is unclear.
     
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    The Democrats used our troops as a prop to threaten anyone that would dare speak out against them. But, they couldn't give a crap about the men and women that serve and treated them like worthless serfs allowing them to get sick.
     
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    Once upon a time in Washington a DP Congress investigated the USG's secret police/spy agencies.
    They did not have to turn over many rocks to find serious criminal misconduct.

    "The FBI worked to create violent confrontations between factions on the radical left. The bureau was prepared in this case to commit violent acts itself. In New York, agents set cars on fire with "Molotov cocktails," making it appear that one faction was attacking another. FBI agents conducted at least five such bombings in 1973 and 1974." THE LAWLESS STATE, The Crimes of the U.S. Intelligence Agencies, Morton H. Halperin, Jerry J. Bermin, Robert L. Borosage, and Christine M. Marwick, Penguin Books, NY, 1977. p. 125.
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    Many of our politicians and pundits have called for violence and riots.
    President Trump is not one of them.
     
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    Suddenly Covid is a big deal? You guys told us for a year it was just the flu! I thought the goal was herd immunity?
     
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    If you have evidence that the violence among Trump supporters has been created by the FBI then by all means present it. Merely pointing out that the FBI did that sort of thing decades ago does not even get off the start line. It is the equivlent of screaming 'ANTIFA' every time someone shows a photo of violent Trump protests. There has been ample evidence for decades that the right is capable of extremely violent acts. There is no reason to beleive that was not the case this time.

    This reminds me of people who claim that because Hitler didn't sign an order saying 'start the holocaust' that he somehow wasn't reponsible. Trump spent months lying & whipping up his supporters, then held a huge rally in DC while Congress was certifying the election and did the same once more. He instigated the violence and he is responsible for it. This wasn't some organic phenomenon that rose up to fight a percieved injustice, it was wholly created by Trump & his supporters, including members of the Republican Party.

    You can choose to deny that the violence came from the right & that Trump incited the crowd if you wish. That is all about you & has nothing to do with actual events.
     
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    In fact, the USG's secret police/spy agencies, when investigated during public full due process hearings, were fully exposed as serious subversive corrupt criminal organizations. There is no evidence that they have ever changed.

    “European intelligence experts are amused at the readiness of their American counterparts to justify domestic practices as “defensive counterintelligence”. This has become apparent in the justifications for wiretapping. One can see it clearly in the report of the Saxby committee on the FBI's counterintelligence programs. This document, released in November 1974, justified the most aggressive forms of counterintelligence, deployed in a program conducted for some 15 years against nominal communists, on the ground that it “was conceived as a ‘counter intelligence’ effort in the purest sense”. The targets, the report argued, were really foreign spies and saboteurs.” The Age of Surveillance, The Aims and Methods of America's Political intelligence System, Frank J. Donner, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York, 1980, p. 19.

    Comparing a minor violent encounter in the capitol building that resulted the killing of one unarmed woman to the Holocaust amounts to Holocaust denial and historical revisionism.
     
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    Did the Trump virus kill all those people in EU and everywhere else in the world? Why you trolling? Guess it’s the Biden virus now. Every death is on his watch now by the genius leftist standard of stupidity.
     
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    Basing my post in a vacuum, then I agree with you. It is not the Trump virus anymore then it is the China virus.

    The reason I used that term is because the poster I responded to had said "China Virus."

    Trump does deserve some indirect blame for deaths due to his poor reaction to the virus.

    I am not a leftist.
     

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