Netanyahu's speech of lies

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    Netanyahu's speech of lies
    Benjamin Netanyahu promised he would feed us the truth, not another campaign speech, but a test of this promise seems apposite.
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    Bertolt Brecht wrote, in his poem "The Necessity of Propaganda," "Even the hungry must admit that the Minister of Nutrition gives a good speech." (Translation from the German, Jon Swan. ) It must be admitted that Benjamin Netanyahu gave a good speech at the UN General Assembly. His English was polished, his hand gestures precise and his body language perfect. His propaganda was sweet as honey dripping from his lips. It improves from speech to speech. But the prime minister promised that this time he would feed us the truth, not another campaign speech. A test of this promise seems apposite.



    The real main message that Netanyahu brought to New York was that peace is achieved through direct negotiations between the parties, not unilateral measures like appealing to the United Nations. (By his truth, expanding the settlements in territory whose future is supposed to be determined through negotiation is presumably a bilateral measure. ) As a goodwill gesture to the Arab neighbors, Netanyahu quoted "an old Arab saying that you cannot applaud with one hand." The truth is that the "saying" is actually a distortion of a well-known Zen koan. An innocent mistake, happens to everyone. The lie is in the "moral" of the saying, according to which the problem is the Palestinians' refusal to clap their hands for peace and talk about security.

    As a sage providing support for his own truth, Netanyahu claimed that in 2000 Israel "made a sweeping peace offer that met virtually all of the Palestinian demands." It would be interesting to hear the opinion of then-Prime Minister Ehud Barak on this "truth," for example on the Palestinian demands regarding the Temple Mount and the Palestinian refugee issue. Netanyahu also invoked his immediate predecessor, Ehud Olmert, to help substantiate his claims that there is no one to talk to. According to Netanyahu,"Olmert afterwards made an even more sweeping offer, in 2008. President Abbas didn't even respond to it." This is one of those cases where a half truth is even worse than a lie.

    Netanyahu certainly read Olmert's op-ed in The New York Times last week,
    asserting that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas never rejected his offer: "The parameters of a peace deal are well known and they have already been put on the table. I put them there in September 2008 when I presented a far-reaching offer to Mr. Abbas," Olmert wrote.

    Netanyahu, who is so concerned about our security that he is even demanding the creation of military bases in the West Bank, claimed the Palestinians are refusing to talk about security arrangements. Really? Let him try to deny that the Palestinians submitted a detailed security proposal, via U.S. envoy George Mitchell. How many times must Abbas repeat, in speeches and interviews, that he is willing to demilitarize the territories and even to permit an international force like the Multinational Force and Observers in Sinai, or even U.S. troops, to deploy in the Palestinian state.

    We must also reveal the truth about "the refusal of the Palestinians to recognize a Jewish state in any border," as Netanyahu said to the General Assembly on Friday. His statement was made soon after Abbas submitted to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon an official request to recognize the Palestinian state within the 1967 borders, a state that will live in peace with the State of Israel.

    Apparently Netanyahu did not manage to see the application and did not know that it was based on UN Resolution 181, providing for the creation of an Arab state alongside Israel, as well as on the 1988 Palestinian declaration of independence, which recognized UN Security Council Resolution 242 and referred to Israel as a Jewish state.

    In his speech, Netanyahu exaggerated the danger of the threat posed by Muslim extremists, which he illustrated with the precedent of Israel's unilateral withdrawal from the Gaza Strip - giving "the keys of Gaza to President Abbas" and receiving Qassam rockets in return. How does one correlate a unilateral withdrawal with handing the keys over to the enemy? Netanyahu easily skipped over the Arab League Peace Initiative, yellowing on the shelf for nearly a decade. In it, all Arab League members, including the Palestine Liberation Organization, offered Israel not only peace and security within the 1967 borders and an agreed solution to the refugee problem, but also normalization of relations.

    The Quartet proposal, issued after Netanyahu's speech, refers directly to the Arab League offer and the Middle East road map - which demands an end to building in the settlements and the dismantling of the illegal outposts - as sources of authority for the negotiations. The Quartet expects the two parties to set aside the propaganda and begin showing their hands. If the Palestinians don't pull his chestnuts out of the fire, maybe Netanyahu's truth will finally be revealed.


    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/netanyahu-s-speech-of-lies-1.386720


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    Uncle Ferd says she was a hottie when she was younger, but now she gettin' to look like Golda Meier...
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    Can Tzipi Livni oust Netanyahu and the Likud Party?
    November 27, 2012 - Tzipi Livni, a former foreign minister of Israel, is making a political comeback. At the same time, the ruling Likud Party has announced a hard-line slate of candidates. Can Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu win re-election in January?
     
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    Can Tzipi Livni oust Netanyahu and the Likud Party?


    I doubt it'll make a crap of difference . Any Israeli PM will have to make deals with the hard line Zionists hawks . . If she should dare engage in serious peace negotiations with Palestinians , she'll end up like Yizhak Rabin.

    ... Frankly I cant think of any reason to think the leopard will change its spots or the hyenas change their habits.


    .... Nevertheless , thanks for your input waltky (wink)


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    Her?

    Lol.

    The former Mossad agent whose knickers are like a yo yo?
     
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    Didn't see you talk about a male politician underware.
    Not only a racist, but a sexist as well, figures.
     
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    I dont know about Netanyahus lying but was anyone able to watch the Israeli ambassador speech at the UN all the way through?

    I forced myself to listen to it but a few times had to switch channels because I was too much to bear.

    How the US and UK managed to sit there with their eyes glued on him was amazing.

    Seriously how they nodded in agreement was something the world was watching and realised how insane this trio is :omg: plus of course the Marshall Islanders!

    I think Olmert will try to get back in to the driving seat.


    The Israelis have never in their history been so hated globally and as a gesture of defiance and throwing the Americans another middle finger they immediately ordered another 3000 illegal units :mrgreen:

    Obama took it right slap bang on his right cheek!
     
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    One thing we all can be sure of though after Abbas at the UN.

    It showed the world that the USA and UK were never and NEVER will be honest negotiators for any type of peace agreement just like the Israelis will NEVER be.
    Why?

    Because they always feared the ICC and ICJ because they will all end up in it in time and that's why they never were serious about any agreement.

    Soon the war criminals will all be limited to travelling between each other and Naurau and Czech republique and Micronesia
     
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    Well, if it really came as a surprise to Droneman then he thoroughly deserves it. I suspect myself that the US of AIPAC is always privvy to the neoZionist game-plan and that, more frequently than not, the plots are hatched between the Trowelheads and Washington. What we see in the way of ' condemnation ' is lip-service to international law.
     
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    The shame of it the humiliation of it! :omg:

    He must be part of it surely, the settlements I mean. The Americans never were serious about peace at all and it really shows now more than ever and UK too after Hague warning Abbas about the Hague!

    The US trying to blackmail with no shame at all to cut aid to the PA.

    That's the biggest joke of all :mrgreen:

    there is no way they would do that!
     
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    Whilst I'm certain of the scurrilous motivations of the US of AIPAC establishment, Abu, I'm still uncertain of Droneman's true calling. Perhaps he is too. Is he simply prepared to allow the Zionist fascists to publicly humiliate him ?
     
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    So much for seeking peace. Within a day after the vote, Bibi authorized the construction of 3,000 new homes in East Jerusalem. This is obviously a message to Palestineans and the world as to his true intentions. Hillary spoke out in the finest example of telling people off without using any nasty words or reference to the true issues.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/01/world/meast/israel-settlements-clinton/
     
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    He was taught from the finest, Edward Said. The Droneman has no excuses.
     
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    Yet another fair and proportionate response to stones, or IOF hiding behind Palestinian human shields?
     
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    There seems to be a pattern to it, as well...http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-world-news/278283-just-cannot-stop-stealing.html
     
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    They say they shoot at the legs.

    Often they do not. When they do not, and a child (for example), is killed, the most that happens to them is a small fine, usually at max, around 100sheckles.
     
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    Psychopath Netanyahu Lies Again to Lead Us into World War III


    Prime Minister of Israel and psychopath Benjamin Netanyahu has been dragging, along with his fellows in the US neoconservative cabal, the United States into wars based on the same lie, the threat of nuclear weapons from different nations in the Middle East.

    That lie has been proven false in Iraq back in 2002, why would anyone listen to this guy when Iran has explicitly stated that their nuclear capabilities are ONLY for peaceful purposes


    “There is no question whatsoever that Saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing to the development of nuclear weapons. No question whatsoever

    see videos

    http://thebilzerianreport.com/as-is...es-lets-not-forget-his-lies-about-iraqs-wmds/




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    The maniac is set on launching a war with Iran - at America's expence. ,

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    Israeli opposition leader Shaul Mofaz has lashed out at Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for his warmongering stance on Iran, saying the time is ripe for his rival’s replacement on account of his "obsession" to attack the Islamic Republic.


    "Whoever knows what is going on in the prime minister's bureau knows and understands that Netanyahu is on an irreversible course, he is committed to it, he has set a schedule from the UN podium and has promised us a nuclear spring," Mofaz said on Thursday as he kicked off his election campaign.

    "Netanyahu will mire us in trouble," the head of the centrist Kadima Party added while showing a poster of a flaming mushroom cloud emblazoned with reading in Hebrew.


    The former Israeli military chief, who quit Netanyahu's coalition weeks ago due to differences with the premier over dealing with Iran’s nuclear energy program, also warned that an alliance between Netanyahu’s center-right Likud and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman's hard-line faction would be "very dangerous for Israel's future."

    "We mustn't take this chance we must absolutely not allow Netanyahu carry out this obsession so it is now imperative to replace Netanyahu and Lieberman," Mofaz said.

    On Wednesday, Israel’s Minister for Military Affairs Ehud Barak repeated Tel Aviv’s war threats against Tehran, saying Israel would not wait for approval from its “closest and most trusted allies" to attack Iran's nuclear energy facilities.

    "When it comes to the very future of Israel, and its vital security interests, we cannot… and will not outsource the responsibility for making the decision. Not even to our closest and most trusted allies," Barak said.

    Tel Aviv has repeatedly threatened Iran with a military strike, saying that Tehran is pursuing non-civilian objectives in its nuclear energy program.

    Several current and former Israeli military and intelligence figures have come out against Netanyahu’s war rhetoric against Tehran, saying such a move will backfire.

    Iran argues that as a signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency, it has the right to develop and acquire nuclear technology meant for peaceful purposes.

    Iranian officials have, however, vowed a crushing response to any military strike against the country, warning that any such measure could result in a war that would spread beyond the Middle East.


    http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/netanyahu-s-rival-blasts-his-obsession-with-iran/129364/


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    Sorry for the cut ;)

    However, again, I cannot stress enough, the US need to reclaim it's pride and soul, by ridding itself of the parasite that is Zionist/organised Jewry.

    I cringe for them, to be honest, two Pres candidates who both crawled on their knees ...to Israel.

    Paying more for the 'security' of Israeli's, than Israeli's do.

    Using 80% of their Dept of Homeland security grants, for Jews in the US.

    AIPAC not registered as a foreign agency.

    And your neo cons. What the neo cons are, in essence, are yet another Kosher construct. They love making them, it is a way to subvert a country, and gain influence, also, of course, there is all the staff that need paying..

    There is no way that the US would have gone into Iraq, had it not been for their behaviours being altered by Zionist Jewry.

    In nature, when a parasite infects the host, it can also alter it's very brain,causing it to behave in a self destructive manner. Sounds familar right?

    But I do not believe Iraq would have happened, had it not been for Jews like Pearle and Wolfowitz, what you may call Neo Cons, writing the narrative, and pushing it through. They like to do it this way, use the US as a golem, because, as always, the chosen can then sit back, and say 'Hey, Iraq was bad, but it wasn't us'....they shift it all onto Americans.

    They have always done such things, right through history, it is nothing new, just new for Americans.

    Neo conservatives - 100% Kosher.

    Yet another glimpse into the massive Jewish ethnic infrastructure, the infrastructure that undergirds the power of the Israel Lobby. A column by Justin Logan in The National Interest (“Memo to Leslie Gelb: The neocons never left“) points out that neocons are alive and well, dominating the foreign policy of the Republican Party. Logan points to Mitt Romney’s foreign policy advisers, most of whom are neocon Jews. And we certainly can’t expect anything better from the likes of Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, and Herman Cain.

    The reason the neocons have been so successful in taking over the Republican foreign policy establishment is that they provide careers for like-minded people:



    As Scott McConnell has pointed out, neoconservatism is a career. Or as Bill Kristol remarked in 2005, the neoconservatives have done such an excellent job building institutions and infrastructure for developing the next generation of neocons that “soon there are going to be more neoconservative magazines than there are neoconservatives.” There are dozens of twenty-something, thirty-something, forty-something and older neocons throughout Washington, working at think tanks, editorial pages, in government and elsewhere. I could probably count on two hands the number of youngish national-security types I know in town who I could strain to call realists. This imbalance among foreign-policy elites helps create the mistaken impression that there are lots of neoconservatives in America generally, which there aren’t. Neoconservatism really is a head without a body.

    But that’s how foreign policy (not to mention immigration policy and policy related to all things multicultural) is made in the US—by elites with money and political connections, not by popular sentiment. The interests of America be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.ne...-the-incredible-jewish-ethnic-infrastructure/
     

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