Never can Iran have a Nuclear Weapon

It has been determined by intelligence sources that N. Korea either has or may have the ability to deliver a nuclear warhead to a target by 3 different means....either by missle, aircraft or unconventional means....of which they were not explicit about but one method could be a smuggling a nuclear device to a target and detonating it...probably other ways that I would not be knowledgable of.

Not even to mention they could supply a islamic terrorist group with a nuclear weapon.

Of course they do not have the delivery capability of China...but their probable ability to deliver a nuke is more than enough deterrance to an attack by America or any of our allies....do you think any President would dare attack N.Korea knowing there is a possibility they could hit L.A. or some other American city with a nuke....I think not.

China of course has a treaty with N. Korea and whether or not they would come to N. Koreas aid if they knew they could be a target of American nukes...is debateable. But of course China does give N. Korea a lot of defense...as in any proposed attack on N. Korea would have to take in the possibility of Chinese Intervention as they did back in the Korean War.

Now the real question of course is would N. Korea be willing to give up their nukes for some kind of agreement with the U.S?

I am sure much more knowledgable sources than either of us would disagree on that...some I think would say yes(or why would Trump be wasting his time) and some would say no.

Whilst some claim N. Korea is just a 'proxy' of China and will do whatever China tells them....I do not agree. N. Korea has its own interests and goals...which would be different than China's....and why would they insist on keeping Nukes if they could get a very lucrative deal with the U.S?

If they sign a treaty with the U.S. they would understand that would eliminate any threat of an attack from the U.S. thus no need for nukes....just depends on how much Kim wants to modernize N. Korea and make it a viable economic power.

So I would say there is at least a chance he may agree to dispose of his nukes if can get a deal that would be to his satisfaction.

https://www.heritage.org/asia/report/does-north-korea-have-missile-deliverable-nuclear-weapon

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-korea-nuclear-icbm-in-2018-us-dia-intelligence-assessment/

 

Let me guess. Your evidence is him telling his supporters at rallies to attack protestors in 2015 and 16?

 

And their motivation was what exactly?

 

What I said or what you said? To remind you, you said that we should allow terrorism to foster.

 

Was there a context or was that said in a vacuum?

 

Well how can I know whether or not you said it in context?

 

You go and look...before you confront me with it as though it came out of nowhere.

 

Wrong rating ....
Iran withstood now 40 years all attempts of you to be eleminated ... and also all attempts by Israel and their enemies the Saudis.
You have brought in the bloody Shah regime into power by eleminating the democratic elected Mossadegh before and you helped the Shah regime to depress and humilate democracy and so to stay in power!
Yes ... you made a mistake out of whatever reason, otherwise the Shah would not have been kicked off from power...

 

While they may "believe" in them, they don't constitutionally have that protections. There are, as I cited, a couple of very fragile court decisions there, but it isn't part of their national incorporation like it is in our US constitution. So while you might "feel" you know these things, the facts simply don't support your passion here....

 

The korean war was 70 years ago

And china does not have bases in NK with nuclear weapons

 

"Combined power? Dude you know how when you're sitting on your ass super comfy and you want something that's just out of reach but you're just too ****ing lazy to get up and get it so you kind of nudge it with your toe or a stick or something until its a bit closer and you can grab it? And sometimes that takes longer and more effort than actually getting up and getting it would? But you're just so fat and lazy you don't care?"

^ Seriously man. All that you're complaining of? Has been us barely exerting ourselves and not allowing the israeli's to as well.

 

I'll give you another chance at answering the question. Should we allow terrorism to foster?

 

We don't have the right to free speech. Instead, we have a law which restricts racially offensive speech.

 

Libs such as the ones posting on this forum are dreaming of the day when Americans have no free soeech rights either

 

You have certainly underestimated the Iranian revolution and the opening credits.
Only ... for 40 years you fight intensively, then less intensively Iran. You have massively sanctioned the country for 40 years, and have done nothing to clarify your hostility to the mullahs. The occupation of the Embassy and the Geislenahme are still very deep in the flesh of many Americans ...
And Israel has been doing the same thing all along ... even more intensively, because their Mossad massively in Iran also went on with sabotage files and targeted assassinations!
And Saudi Arabia = Sunites are since the seizure of the mullahs a dead man the Iranian = Shia! You know ... even if weoeider people want to play down the conflict between Sunnis and Shia ... this often bloody conflict is the central theme in ME ... besides the hatred of Israel and also on you Americans!

And again ... you seriously underestimate the possibilities of the Reconnaissance of today. According to the Iran deal, the pure, well-founded suspicion is enough to initiate the control of a specific institution in Iran.
In other words ... if there are suspicious actions, radioaltivity is measured, what can not be, etc., then IAEA controls are on ... and if then Iran refuses, yes then you are in the right. Just because it is a closed Iranian military facility is not a suspicion.

 

Again, we have not been fighting intensively. We have not even exerted actual effort yet.

Again, known and static monitoring stations are easily hacked. No spot checks? Not even an assumed amount of security exists.

 

Again ... the only thing you didn't was a military strike on them like 2003 in Iraq ... all other issues you have done ... and were done by Mossad of Israel for sure and Israel is your ally how depends yon your financial donations!

And again ... you underestimate the possibilities of modern equipment. I was not talking about static monitoring stuff! You have experts and excellent equipemnt to fiond out what is going on there.

 

I hate to tell you this but even the initial shock and awe campaign wasn't us putting forth a whole lot of effort. That was like quarter speed, tops.
Additionally: Israel hasn't been allowed to war with them, much less at gloves off level, either. They don't have the sort of capability we do. Not even close.

Except they're not allowed in numerous places now are they?

 

To stop intentional arming of terrorists - citing the arming of Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria as an example.

 

In a competitive market, returns for profit-making businesses tend to covering the cost of capital, essentially what nonprofits have to service. A profit-making business can more than cover capital costs by being better than nonprofits at delivering goods and services.

Let profit-making businesses compete with nonprofits. If they can't do a better job, profit-making businesses will either accept just covering the cost of capital or go out of business.

 

It's more complicated than that. I use the Canadian system which I like better Medicare (born and raised in California, naturalized in Canada ... I have choices) where, for instance, they don't give smokers and former smokers CT scans to pick up lung cancer before it's a death sentence, or routine colonoscopies to screen for precancerous polyps. Many private insurers offer these tests in this country.

Most people don't have the money to pay taxes for a public system and buy private care. Not participating isn't a choice for most Americans. Besides, private care might not even be available in many locations if we go to a public system.

I think we'll get to a public system that covers everyone faster if we don't stop people from having additional or different private care they may want.

 

You may not have noticed, but the Orange Oaf is busy undoing initiatives to cut down on greenhouse gas emissions.

The average voter put the Orange Oaf in the White House. Elections, as they say, "have consequences."

Pollyanna has nothing on you. I wish I could believe, but I can't.

 

The world is marching on. Many large Corporations have their own scientists and technology. They don’t need government to tell them what they have known already for twenty plus years.
Trump can preach all he wants to his uniformed base to hang onto their votes, and it does have some negative impact.

The world in general is science based and more so with every passing year. The average person has no idea how a cell phone functions, why would they understand AGW. Because they don’t understand cell phones, that doesn’t keep them from using them, nor will it keep the smart people from ultimately making all the major corporate decisions affected by AGW. .

How dumb is trump ? His only personal allies are murderous dictators and I find it laughable/ sad, that they know more about science and the impact AGW then trump. Belief in AGW is one of the major bellwethers of competence .

I really don’t care what you or any individual believes. I do care what those in power believe. Pollyanna ? It must be nice living in a cave.

 

Do they have them in fact? Yes, they do. Do they exercise their right as evidenced by the dissemination and interchange of information? Yes.

Are they as likely to exercise their rights as we do ours? I think so.

I've been to Australia and observed them exercising their right to exchange information.

 

Man, you’re making a lot of woo woo. Most people don’t have money to pay taxes for Medicare, but still have enough to buy private insurance ? Amazing. You’re telling me an elderly person can afford private insurance but not the hundred bucks a month for Medicare ?

As far as public insurance, Medicare and Medicaid refusal to give cat scans to ex smokers, that’s bogus. They’ll pretty much go with whatever their primary care requests.