New Orleans: 3 Dead, 7 Injured In a City that Spent Thousands to Take down Historical Statues

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  1. Bluesguy

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    "Wesley Lynch III, a 25-year-old African-American, said the gesture was an important one. Mr. Lynch was standing by the flag-wavers near the Davis statue on Thursday, having encountered them after paying his light bill at the nearby power company office. He is unemployed — his last job was at a Popeyes chicken restaurant — and he spoke, with passion and despair, about the statues not as relics, but as living symbols of a social order that, from his experience, wanted people like him to rise only so far.

    They’re putting that image right in our face and saying, ‘Blacks at the bottom, whites at the top,’” he said. “That’s what they’re saying.”.........

    ............Mr. Suber, an adjunct professor of political science at Southern University, an avowed Marxist-Leninist, and an organizer of an anti-statue group called the Take ’Em Down NOLA Coalition. He noted that he had been part of a group that persuaded the Orleans Parish School Board to pass a policy in 1992 that prohibited schools from being named for slave owners. It eventually led to a school called George Washington Elementary being renamed for Dr. Charles Richard Drew, a prominent black surgeon.

    On Thursday, Mr. Suber chuckled mischievously and said he would be delighted to see the statue of Washington over by the New Orleans Public Library come down, too.

    “He was a slave master,” he said. “Right?”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/07/us/new-orleans-monuments.html

    So do you think Mr. Lynch's life has improved now? Maybe he has gotten his job back at Popeye's? Do you really think the dear professor is actually helping black people with his crusade?
     
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    unless they are paying storage fees on those statues, they are not.
     
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    No, and it's spent too much to allow for additional officers and investigations. 70% of murders in NOLA go unsolved. I guess they didn't need any additional funds for those investigations and police patrol. The city is fine.
     
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    why would they fire "indiscriminately into the crowd"? no body was specifically targeted
     
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    I somehow suspect that the passion this issue generates, involves more than just Mr. Lynch alone. I trust the city of New Orleans to balance and weigh the respective pros and cons of keeping these statues or removing them. A lot of people apparently feel they are more of an albatross on the city's image as inclusive and modern, than a beautiful remembrance of a confederate heritage . To me this is no different than any other decision involving a city's art or historic propaganda. Tastes change, and priorities change.
     
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    Apparently, one victim was fleeing two gunmen and ran into the crowd in front of the ‘Chicken & Watermelon’ restaurant where a number of innocent bystanders were also shot........there were no signs of Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis or the KKK.........
     
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    Whewww, what a relief. Like already stated, the city is just fine.
     
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    But not white chocolate..
     
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    Kind of like cancer. If you don't take care of it while you can the changes of dying increase...
     
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    I don't care if Charles Manson had gotten cancer.
     
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    Well they have already removed them so has Mr. Lynch suddenly become unoppressed and now has a 6 figure salary? Are the streets safer now. New Orleans image is that of a VERY historical city which people come to visit the HISTORY not whether is is inclusive and modern. Have you even ever been there?
     
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    No one rational gave a damn that they were there either. The reality is the removing the statues was a waste of time and money that could have been better spent on almost anything else.
     
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    Did those statues prevent crime? Did they reduce poverty or fill potholes or reduce homelessness? We can both do this, Blues but those questions are ludicrous. I have not been to New Orleans. That is why my preference is to trust the local political system to figure this out. I don't come at this with a preconceived idea of what the outcome should be. I assume that different towns throughout the south will come to different conclusions on whether or when to ditch the trappings and propaganda of a confederate or segregationist historical past. I trust those locals who are partially dependent on tourism and appreciate a sense of community, to evaluate how much those specific symbols have to offer, and how much those symbols may interfere with tourism and divide the community.
     
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    Well enough people in New Orleans 'gave a damn' that a coalition developed and succeeded in electing politicians who concurred with this decision. And several still are in office so recall efforts weren't successful. I have not read about local protest marches with thousands demanding that those statues be returned. Actually, people in New Orleans don't appear to be all that upset by this . I am uninterested in anyone's view of how city taxes are spent in New Orleans, who does not live in New Orleans and pay them.
     
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    You do understand that mob Iq is equal to the IQ of the dumbest member of the mob divided by the number of people in the mob. This proves that formulation. Doing form over substance pointless and expensive BS may suit the mob but it is ultimately destructive of good governance.
     
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    So I get your platitudes on 'good governance' now. I am so impressed.
     
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    Facts are facts whether you like them or not is utterly irrelevant.
     
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    Democrats are known for having great prioritization skills.

    The police should be shut down in NO so that no more people are killed by cops there.
     
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    Are you talking about Trump's base?
     
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    No Clintons...
     
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    Who?
     
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    Specious I didn't claim they did.


    That time and energy is wasted on such nonsense is ludicrous.

    I have spent a great deal of time in New Orleans as I grew up near there and lived in south Louisiana for 8 years and have a brother who lived in New Orleans for 12 before moving to the North Shore because crime was getting so bad. New Orleans survives on it's history and tourist industry. To destroy that will be a final blow to the city that once had a thriving industrial base but that was run out by the crime and lack of a qualified workforce. Yes it is a shame that what is now the "local political system" would rather engage in racial politics than getting business and industry back into the city and then to protect its historical heritage.
     
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    "Roosevelt Iglus was booked with second-degree murder in the death of 32-year-old Muhiyidin Moye, police announced Wednesday (July 25). Moye, who preferred the last name d'Baha, was killed Feb. 6 in the 1900 block of Bienville Street. He was shot in the thigh and taken in critical condition to a local hospital, where he later died.

    In announcing Iglus' arrest, police did not discuss any possible motive for the shooting. In February, police said it may have occurred during a robbery attempt."

    https://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2018/07/man_arrested_accused_of_of_mur.html

    So it is confirmed. It was a black man, big dude stands 6'6", who killed the renowned black lives matter activist from South Carolina in Nawlins.

    Best advice: just stay the hell out of big cities, plan visits and adventures somewhere else.

    And look up the crime rate on bestplaces.net before you go anywhere in the USA, before your plans are final.

    It's crime-ridden in much of the USA out there, you got to lookout for yourself and yours.
     
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