New Orleans Shooting Injures 10 People Near French Quarter

Maybe we just lock up gang members instead?

 

For the record I am for “no cost” gun safety courses.

 

For illegal possession of a firearm, which would be the case no matter what.
In YOUR chosen example you cannot demonstrate how registration had any effect on the ability of a felon to get a gun through a straw purchase, as you claimed.
Tell us why you irrationally cling to the idea universal registration is necessary and effective,

 

No, the cousin in your example would be charged for selling the weapon to a felon which is currently only illegal if you knew they were a felon. With firearm registration the seller would be forced to obtain a background check and process the transfer. If the seller did not appropriately transfer the weapon they would be charged. If the weapon was used in a crime while registered to the seller they would be charged.

I am not clinging to anything, it is my belief — until I hear an argument that I believe dismantles that belief I will continue to hold it.
The potential abuse of government is close, but I believe America would rise up as a whole if the government ever did a mass seizure.

 

And how does that make anyone safer?

 

How? The guy who bought the gun for his cousin sold it to him and then reported it stolen.

Obviously not.

Obviously not.

How would the seller be charged when he reported his gun stolen?

Your belief is unsupported, and if you attention, your arguments have all been refuted.

 

People would be less likely to unknowingly or purposely sell or give weapons to people not eligible to own one.

How are the china factories doing?

 

You realize that during the Revolutionary war, only about 1/3 of people rose up against the govt.

 

We would be able to track the number of times a person has reported weapons “stolen”, excessive violations would result in a charge and loss of ability to buy new weapons.

It would prevent sales at gun shows and private events to people unauthorized to purchase.
I don’t see all of those people registering their weapons as stolen...

The arguments are not being refuted, you are just throwing out very narrow circumstances and them screaming victory.

Do you consider any item or legislation to get our gun violence issues under control or do we just keep allowing schools and malls to be shot up indefinitely and shrug after each time?

 

That is 110 million people — plenty.

 

Your words... "I believe America would rise up as a whole".

 

Ok I will revise it down to 1/3.
Happy?

 

No. You aren't the arbiter of "plenty" either.

 

Yeh, most republicans never seem to be happy for some reason.
Y’all should work on that!

 

Can you cite evidence that shows this is a tremendous problem?

 

• Nearly two thirds of crime guns recovered in states with strong gun laws were originally sold in states with weak gun laws.2
• Studies of crime gun recoveries in Chicago,3 New York City,4 and Boston5—all cities in states with strong gun laws—show that as many as 87% of the firearms used in crime in these cities were trafficked from other states which often have weaker gun laws.
• States with strong gun laws see increased rates of gun homicide and gun crime when they border states with weak gun laws.6
• Data from a national survey of firearm licensees suggests that there are more than 30,000 attempted straw purchases each year.9
• A representative survey found that more than two-thirds of dealers experienced at least one attempted straw purchase in the year preceding the survey.10
• Researchers have also found that gun dealers are willing to make gun sales under conditions that suggest straw purchases.11
• In one investigation, one in five gun sellers were willing to sell guns to people explicitly asking to buy firearms on behalf of someone else.12

You can read more at https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/crime-guns/trafficking-straw-purchasing/

 

Which does nothing to change the fact registration does not prevent any of the things you say it will.
I gave you but ONE scenario where someone gets around it, and it took me three seconds to think of it - let me put some effort into it and I can come up with scores.

I used YOUR example; the fact I can easily come up with examples where none of things you say will happen will actually happen means your argument has been refuted.

Certainly: rather than place your unnecessary and ineffective limits on the rights of the law abiding, make it easier the law abiding to defend themselves.

 

So your solution is we need more guns?
That sounds about right.

Thanks for your input.

 

Almost all of which arrived in those states in violation of federal law.

Almost all of which arrived in those states in violation of federal law.

Because almost every gun that came into those states did so in violation of federal law.

All of which are in violation of federal law.

All of which are in violation of federal law.

All of which are in violation of federal law.

All of which are in violation of federal law.

What point do you think you've made here?

Oh, and as for Giffords...
Tell us about Mark Kelly and his AR15.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...husband-triggers-outcry-idUSBRE92C02W20130313

 

Says he who maintains an obstinate, prejudiced devotion to his unsupportable belief that unnecessary and ineffective restrictions on the law abiding will do something to reduce gun-related violence.

 

Tell me, in first world countries with highly restrictive gun laws, do they have more or less shootings than the US?

 

Sorry - post hoc fallacies, such as yours, make me sleepy.
Demonstrate the necessary relationship between the gun laws in those countries and their lower rate on gun-related murder.

 

Go to sleep then fren.

 

I'm sorry? You -can't - demonstrate the necessary relationship between the gun laws in those countries and their lower rate on gun-related murder?
Figured.

 

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