New policy requires on-field players, personnel to stand for anthem

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  1. AKS

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    That's what it represents to you. You don't get to demand what it means to anyone else.
     
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    Are you saying we don't enjoy freedom? Furthermore, I've made no demands.
     
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    One quick Google search would show you what difference making they do yearly when not on the field.
     
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    Well they got repercussions, rules that they should act like men and fines if they can't grow up. Success!
     
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    If you needed a rule to enforce standing for the anthem in the first place then maybe the patriotism you think you’re trying to display is fake. And maybe people trying to lecture others on what is it isn’t patriotic and the proper war to do it is nothing more than a Star-spangled dick measuring contest.
     
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    Besides, every serious protest in history involves risk and potentially vexing someone. No real political, economical or societal changes would ever exist without some form of protest.
     
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    We have a custom, an etiquette. The NFL has a rule.
     
  8. Durandal

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    It's ironic in a way, being forced to stand through a ceremony that is supposed to celebrate freedom.
     
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    Nobody is forcing them to be NFL players are they?
     
  10. Durandal

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    Obviously not, but I think the point stands.
     
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    Not if they're there by their own free will.
     
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    They are not being forced to stand, they can stay in the locker room till it's over if they choose. What they can't do is go on the field and insult our traditions. If it's that important to them they can actually strike and carry signs that say anything they want to say, probably even get more TV exposure that way.
     
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    NOW it has a rule. But still if you need a rule then maybe you’re not as patriotic as you think.
     
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    The best option is to stop forcing National Anthems and Invocations, etc. on large groups of people as if ALL people have the identical preferences.

    There is no reason whatsoever to have Anthems and Invocations at any public sporting events...zero reasons! So why do it?

    One root of this problem are millions of Americans who are incapable of open-minded thinking to answer the question why must we force anthems and invocations?

    The other root of this is the people who feel entitled to judge others! Lots of people need to get a life...
     
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    Nobody is forced to go to an NFL game.
     
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    They are not being forced to stand. They can kneel and pay a fine. Let's see how dedicated they are to the "cause" when it starts dipping into their wallet.
     
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    Nothing screams freedom like forcing your people to be patriotic. LOL

    #MAGA
     
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    What makes you think I need a rule? I was brought up right.
     
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    Ah yessss... I’m watching Germany playing Mexico on June 17th... :applause:
     
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    Not you, the NFL and everyone else in general, and I stand by that rule.
     
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    The rule was put in place by their employer because their actions had caused a lot of bad feelings among fans. People chose not to watch football on TV and that's where the money comes from to pay their salaries. It is not a government law or rule, it is a prescribed etiquette that most Americans grow up understanding. Not all of us obviously.
     
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    They are not being forced to do anything.
     
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    Yes I get that. I’m talking about my own personal rule that if you need a rule to help promote what you consider patriotism, you’re probacly not patriotic to begin with.
     
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    Well if that's your rule I guess it's your rule.
     
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    Who wrote this (I am guessing many would say they are unpatriotic too since they are protesting abuses by government, much as the players now are -these protest being offensive to many obviously).

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

    He has endeavored to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers. He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
     
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