New Poll: 72 percent say media ‘dividing Americans,’ spreading ‘hate’

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you any concern that when Obama was president, he too had millions that did not agree with him. Did that trouble you at all?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That would come to a near halt if the resistance shuts up.
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    Well I'm very well-educated and I know that the Republicans are giveaway to the rich the last 35 years at least, and the Democrats need 60 votes to do anything, everything that has ever been done for the poor and working class has been done by democrats, so wake up and smell the coffee. Obama had 3 weeks in session and spent it all on ACA, the best thing that has happened to the working class and poor since LBJ.
     
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    The D party sold middle class out when Clinton joined the Rs for NAFTA.
     
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    People are absolutely right.The U.S media outlets are totally biased and selective in condemning violence.For example, whenever are acts of violence committed by the groups associated with democrats/liberals they do their best to burry the news ad fast as possible.Which only inreases the divide and encourages groups they cover for to commit furher violent actions against their political opponents.
     
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    No, American business sold the middle class out, starting under Nixon.
     
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    Fox News just reports the facts

    What you mean are Fox primetime COMMENTATORS like Hannity, tucker carlson, laura ingram ect

    They give opinions which are clearly stated as such

    The libersl fake news networks make no effort to seperate news from opinion and just spew opinion 24/7 labeled as news
     
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    I'd hardly call those anti-white Jewish crooks an "aristocracy".
     
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    yes, the far alt right media is doing just that
     
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    No, the "extreme far ultra right" (normal white guys who object to their own demonization and genocide by Jewish supremacists) are reacting to that. Was it Lenin who said "always accuse your victim of what you yourself are doing"?
     
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    Strange ... I thought people like you tell always that polls are crap?
    Or are only those polls with results you like OK?
     
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    The "highly emotive ranting screeds" of the alt right and far right above troubles the true American mind.

    Those who preach hate and follow Trump blindly need to be corrected always and watched carefully.
     
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    We are talking about the growing majority that disagree with Trump.

    That group is going to continue to grow.
     
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    Not if we start deportations.
     
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    So all you have is meaningless hypocritical name calling and no rational argument?
     
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    The numbers don't support your obsession.
     
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    Alt Fact by you, ocean515, does not change the numbers.
     
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    If there weren't so much ludicrous bias in you view, I could agree.
    Both parties do have their problems- but then, so do all people; we have no perfect individuals either.

    No party can be for the working individuals, OR for what you call the elite. Both of those elements are part of society- and neither can do well without the other. You can't achieve anything by destroying either, they are both part of the formula. They are separated not by birth or some higher power- by by motivation, drive, vision and choices- all personal character qualities, and CHOICES. That means that the wealthy would be poor except for using those qualities to guide choices, and the poor would be wealthy if they did use them. These are life choice consequences, not ordained positions or curses. We are each what we make ourselves to be; the sum total of us makes up society and in the balance of wisdom, controls the decisions of the government to act wisely or stupidly. Free money is an attractive concept, but illusion- everything costs, and somebody always pays. Freedom for us as a people depends upon each of us carrying our own weight as opposed to dumping it on someone else. Freedom isn't free either.

    The financial issues revolve around the simple rules of good fiscal management. Spending and borrowing are not necessarily evil, but they must be done wisely and in keeping with the plan to achieve long-term objectives. It is far better to have a strong financial surplus for example- but the public won't allow that. Human weakness always seeks free money, and if the majority of the public develops a mindset thinking that someone else can be made to pay the bills, they will vote themselves money and benefits from the treasury, regardless of who is in office. The real question is one of responsible fiscal management. Smart people that don't know how hire someone that does, and lets them do their job. Stupid people that don't know how hire someone and insist on dictating what they do, then blame that person or entity for botching the job.

    Generally speaking, conservative values encourage good fiscal policy, and conservative people want that. Liberal/democratic values encourage poor fiscal policy- everything should be free or subsidized, and someone else should pay. "Someone Else". That is all of us, but more importantly- our children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren. This is the question of being responsible for yourself, not passing the cost of what you perceive as your entitlement on to the future.

    Government reflects what they people demand. Not instantly, not precisely, but the general direction is controlled by who we vote in, and how we support them. I support Trump because is a tough businessman and manager- he knows how to do the job that needs to be done. I don't know a single conservative who applauds his personality flaws, but in the long run they make no difference, it is what get accomplished that will control the future. At this point in time, it would appear the democrats vision of the future is limited to a few months at best, and the if the present attitude controlled the government, the nation will collapse.

    Today's crisis is the tomorrow we failed to plan for yesterday. Who should we blame for that? Somebody else, of course.
     
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    The conservatives passed a trillion dollar unfunded tax cut.

    Do not talk about the GOP as the party of fiscal conservatism.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A lot of the working poor went to die in Vietnam thanks to LBJ.

    You are right that Democrats by far make the laws restricting us in the USA
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That my friend is an award post.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Watch Jimmy Kimmel expose how dumb Americans actually are. They would not disagree had he won as a Democrat.
     
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    Is your grip on reality coming loose again? Why do you keep throwing that CRAP out after I've already shown it to be a LIE, Twice in this thread alone!

    In March 2018, the Omnibus Spending Bill was PASSED by dems. More than half senate (R)s voted AGAINST IT. Only a few senate dems voted AGAINST IT.

    Here is a list of the 32 Senators who voted against the Omnibus spending bill:
    Barrasso (R-Wyo.)
    Booker (D-N.J.)
    Cassidy (R-La.)
    Corker (R-Tenn.)
    Cotton (R-Ark.)
    Crapo (R-Idaho)
    Cruz (R-Tex)
    Daines (R-Mont.)
    Enzi (R-Wyo.)
    Ernst (R-Iowa)
    Feinstein (D-Calif.)
    Fischer (R-Neb.)
    Flake (R-Ariz.)
    Gardner (R-Colo.)
    Gillibrand (D-N.Y.)
    Grassley (R-Iowa)
    Harris (D-Calif.)
    Johnson (R-Wisc.)
    Kennedy (R-La.)
    Lankford (R-Okla.)
    Lee (R-Utah)
    Markey (D-Mass.)
    McCaskill (D-Mo.)
    Merkley (D-Ore.)
    Paul (R-Ky.)
    Perdue (R-Ga.)
    Risch (R-Idaho)
    Sanders (I-Vt.)
    Sasse (R-Neb.)
    Sullivan (R-Alaska)
    Tillis (R-N.C.)
    Warren (D-Mass.)

    Senators Not Voting:
    Burr (R-N.C.)
    McCain (R-Ariz.)
    Toomey (R-Pa.)

    Get a grip on reality.

    Steve
     
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    Robert, you sound confused again.
     
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    A lot went there to die under Nixon 2, part of his BS secret plan to end the war-just to win the election...

    I didn't say anything about regulations. Social Security, disability, Medicare Medicaid unemployment you name it Democrats did it. And Republicans have blocked everything since LBJ, the reason we are the only rich country without a living wage Healthcare daycare paid parental leave good infrastructure good vacations cheap college and training, ID card to end illegal immigration etc etc. And you brainwashed fools blame lazy poor people. Back in the good old days we called them unfortunate and with help they love working if they get paid...
     

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