New Poll Shows 20-Point Increase in Support for Impeachment Inquiry—Among Republicans

off the deep end a bit I see.

I’m not taking the time to address all of your fantasies.
I’ll address this one “Since the revelation of Trumps Blackmail phone conversation with the Leader of Ukraine Trump has dedicated his time as President to blocking witnesses and documents from coming before the House even as he claims he has nothing to hide in all matters.”

I’ve read the transcript of the call and your description is wrong. There is no blackmail and I challenge you to find it.

This is but one example of democrats pushing fabricated bullshit news trying to pass it off as real, just like your post was to me.

 

Fantasies lol! This overused cliché excuse is used all the time by those whos arguments have been smashed. So instead of tackling the substance and salient points I've made you simply write it all off as a fantasy. No guts and no ability to challenge my substantial facts and highly cogent arguments with facts or arguments of your own. Where's your proof that my post is all fantasy. You have none

You who have no guts or abilities to respond to my post in a cowardly fashion decide to pick out one point and challenge it. When you get up the courage to respond to all my cogent points I'll be glad to take up your challenge but since you have no courage and no where-with-all to respond to my post in its entirety screw you. You have no Idea how to debate or the fact that my post builds a case against Trumps cowardly and deceitful behaviors before and throughout his term as President.

Blah Blah Blah. All talk but no examples or facts to prove your point. Let me know when you want to respond to my last post gutless.

 

talk about lacking cogent arguments

 

So legal standing is not a factor for half of those polled?

"49 percent—saying they support removing Trump from office."

 

Calling this well researched post with easy to look up facts a fantasy is just trash talk and it's also your concession speech since you don't have the intellect or courage to mount a cogent explanation as to how my salient points are fantasies.

Lol more ignorance. In 2011 Trump claimed that his researchers found unbelievable things about Obama’s birth Certificate in Hawaii. He never elaborated on what was found. He never agreed to the fact that Obama was a legitimate American Citizen until 2016 when he betrayed his followers by conceding Obama was in fact an American citizen. After Trump was elected he claimed there were between 5-3 million fraudulent votes in 2016. This number changed to only 3million fraudulent voters without any explanation as to why. Trump had a Senate committee look into this but in the end both Republican and Democratic Attorney’s General saw this as a complete waste of time and Trump’s unfounded charges were dropped without Trump ever showing proof of his claims of fraudulent voters. The Mueller Report found 11 obstruction of justice charges against Trump. One included the confession of White House lawyer Don Mcgann who said that Trump ordered him to fire Mueller. Mcgann refused stating that this act would cause a constitutional crisis. Then Trump ordered McGann to tell the press that he never asked McGann to fire Mueller. Mcgann refused to participate in this fiction. Cowardly Trump refused to let Mcgann testify before the House. But Mcgann to this day has never denied his confession in the Mueller Report. These are but a few of the breathtaking lies Trump has foisted upon us.

Lol yes Mad Dog Trump is crushing many toes. He Crushes the Constitution, the separation of powers, and the House’s Constitutional right to conduct an impeachment investigation. He doesn’t understand the rule of law and how our American Democracy works. He demands slavish Obedience from all his cabinet members and yet has the largest desertion rate by far of all Presidents when it comes to his appointees scrambling to get out from under his sick insane world of how government works. He lost 4 Generals who were in his administration. Since the revelation of Trumps Blackmail phone conversation with the Leader of Ukraine Trump has dedicated his time as President to blocking witnesses and documents from coming before the House even as he claims he has nothing to hide in all matters. . Trump cannot be compared with any President in terms of his denial of the Constitution, his denial of Democracy, his pathological resistance to the truth and his full bore resistance to the House as it does its Constitutional duty. This is a sick dangerous President in a class all his own.



This is not the full compliment of appointees who deserted Trump or were fired as it doesn't include Trumps mass desertions or firings in all of 2018 and in 2019

Sorted by departure dateAprJulOctJanAprJulOctJanAprJulOct

Kevin McAleenan

Rick Perry

John Bolton

Dan Coats

Alexander Acosta

Sarah Sanders

Kirstjen Nielsen

Scott Gottlieb

Bill Shine

John Kelly

Ryan Zinke

Nikki Haley

James Mattis

Mira Ricardel

Jeff Sessions

Don McGahn



John Kelly sworn in as Chief of Staff

Joe Hagin

Scott Pruitt

Tom Homan

Ty Cobb

Nadia Schadlow

Michael Anton

Tom Bossert

H.R. McMaster

Hope Hicks

David Shulkin

Josh Raffel

John Dowd

John McEntee

Rex Tillerson

John Feeley

Gary Cohn

David Sorensen***

Rachel Brand

Rob Porter

Brenda Fitzgerald

Taylor Weyeneth***

Andrew McCabe**

Omarosa M. Newman

Marc Short

Dina Powell

Rick Dearborn

Jeremy Katz***

George Sifakis***

Tom Price

Keith Schiller

Sebastian Gorka

Steve Bannon

Carl Icahn

Ezra Cohen-Watnick

Anthony Scaramucci

George Gigicos

Reince Priebus

Derek Harvey

Michael Short

Sean Spicer

Rich Higgins

Mark Corallo

Walter Shaub

Tera Dahl

Michael Dubke

James Comey

Angella Reid

Vivek Murthy

K.T. McFarland

Katie Walsh

Michael Flynn

Sally Yates



Scott Pruitt

Environmental Protection Agency Administrator, Resigned



2/17/2017 -

7/5/2018





Andrew McCabe resigned in late January but was later fired by Attorney General Jeff sessions in mid-March



In this case, a specific start or departure date day was not known, and the nearest point to the end or start of the start or departure month is used instead



Source: CNN ANALYSIS; duration in office calculated to day of resignation or firing, whichever comes first. Firings include resignations made in advance



https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/08/politics/trump-admin-departures-t

 

As usual you bring not only the statistics but solid logical explanations to back up your deliverables.

Question for you! Do you have any inkling as to way women are softening in their support for Trump? Are women more like less tolerant of BS? Or do women tolerate BS for shorter time periods than men?
Or do women have a better perception and refined lie detection RADAR than men?

 

I wish I had said that.

 

In polling that polls urban vs suburban vs rural, also by gender (ie, Marist), we see a huge erosion in his numbers among white suburban women. Also, among women of color, the numbers have moved even more against him. As for how women come to their conclusions, I wouldn't dare venture a guess.... because for me, women are a wonderful magnum mysterium, nöööööö.....but, now, back to the topic at hand...

It should be noted the the women's strong support for Trump tracks almost exactly to their disapproval numbers of him and in poll after poll after poll, their disapproval approaches or goes over 58%, and when gauged as disapprove and *strongly* disapprove, women are almost invariably at over 50% *strongly* disapprove. Why is this important? Well, it's important because a segment of our society that has not only been dead-seat against Trump for almost 3 years now, but rather *extremely* dead-set against him, has pretty much made up it's mind vis a vis 2020. People can poo-poo the polling all they want but there has not been one single poll from an accredited pollster anytime, anywhere that has had Trump in positive territory with women overall on any issue. For a while, White women were supporting him, but no more. And this shift is also reflected in the suburban, independent and frankly, also in the rural numbers.

 

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Interesting how I’ve asked one question based off of all your research which is, where is the blackmail in Trumps phone call you speak of? Quote it please. Care to answer with a cogent response?

 

She'll just post another CNN article in place of a response

 

Let's be honest. Very few of us posting here have changed our mind one way or the other regarding Trump, impeachment, etc. and the same goes for our friends, family, and associates. Therefore, my view is these Trump related polls are total BS.

The goal of the the OP, the media, and the swamp in general is to wear down the fence sitters with a constant stream of negatives regarding Trump. A curious strategy IMHO. I would think the energy of the left would better spent trying to promote a candidate who can beat Trump. The fact that you people (the left) don't suggests the reality that all of your current candidates are incapable of beating Trump.

Just sayin.

 

More interesting is your cowardly approach to my well researched post by falsely calling it a fantasy because you lack the guts and knowledge to refute it. I've asked you 3 times to respond to my post and 3 times you have failed to do so. Instead you decided to cherry pick it. I will discuss what ever issue you wish to discuss but first respond to my entire post instead of running away from it in fear by calling it a fantasy. That fantasy claim is your concession that you can't refute my post in its entirety point by point. Quit running away and using the cheap ass technique of deflection.
By not truly contesting this by omission you have conceded that all of the following are true
Lol more ignorance. In 2011 Trump claimed that his researchers found unbelievable things about Obama’s birth Certificate in Hawaii. He never elaborated on what was found. He never agreed to the fact that Obama was a legitimate American Citizen until 2016 when he betrayed his followers by conceding Obama was in fact an American citizen. After Trump was elected he claimed there were between 5-3 million fraudulent votes in 2016. This number changed to only 3million fraudulent voters without any explanation as to why. Trump had a Senate committee look into this but in the end both Republican and Democratic Attorney’s General saw this as a complete waste of time and Trump’s unfounded charges were dropped without Trump ever showing proof of his claims of fraudulent voters. The Mueller Report found 11 obstruction of justice charges against Trump. One included the confession of White House lawyer Don Mcgann who said that Trump ordered him to fire Mueller. Mcgann refused stating that this act would cause a constitutional crisis. Then Trump ordered McGann to tell the press that he never asked McGann to fire Mueller. Mcgann refused to participate in this fiction. Cowardly Trump refused to let Mcgann testify before the House. But Mcgann to this day has never denied his confession in the Mueller Report. These are but a few of the breathtaking lies Trump has foisted upon us.

Lol yes Mad Dog Trump is crushing many toes. He Crushes the Constitution, the separation of powers, and the House’s Constitutional right to conduct an impeachment investigation. He doesn’t understand the rule of law and how our American Democracy works. He demands slavish Obedience from all his cabinet members and yet has the largest desertion rate by far of all Presidents when it comes to his appointees scrambling to get out from under his sick insane world of how government works. He lost 4 Generals who were in his administration. Since the revelation of Trumps Blackmail phone conversation with the Leader of Ukraine Trump has dedicated his time as President to blocking witnesses and documents from coming before the House even as he claims he has nothing to hide in all matters. . Trump cannot be compared with any President in terms of his denial of the Constitution, his denial of Democracy, his pathological resistance to the truth and his full bore resistance to the House as it does its Constitutional duty. This is a sick dangerous President in a class all his own.



This is not the full compliment of appointees who deserted Trump or were fired as it doesn't include Trumps mass desertions or firings in all of 2018 and in 2019

Sorted by departure dateAprJulOctJanAprJulOctJanAprJulOct

Kevin McAleenan

Rick Perry

John Bolton

Dan Coats

Alexander Acosta

Sarah Sanders

Kirstjen Nielsen

Scott Gottlieb

Bill Shine

John Kelly

Ryan Zinke

Nikki Haley

James Mattis

Mira Ricardel

Jeff Sessions

Don McGahn



John Kelly sworn in as Chief of Staff

Joe Hagin

Scott Pruitt

 

Can you not read? You stated Trump blackmailed Ukraine in his phone call, among a bunch of other things. I started there. Where is the blackmail?

 

That's a lie you started there and ended there,
You don't get to cherry pick my post. Where are your guts? Once again you are not contesting any of my points in their entirety.

 

Funny you keep talking about lacking guts yet you won’t defend a statement you made. So maybe I should ask you where your guts are?

 

You do realize that the "transcript" is not word for word, right?

 

You do realize it’s as close as it gets right?

 

Lol you forget Trump referred to it as “The Perfect Call” and Ambassador Taylor an honorable life long public servant makes Trump looks like the low grade skunk that he is by comparison.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/10/23/william-taylor-testimony-donald-trump-229875

And Taylor, a Trump appointee who served as an Army officer in Vietnam before embarking on a long government and diplomatic career in both Republican and Democratic administrations, testified that military aid to Ukraine appropriated by Congress—and a White House meeting sought by the Ukrainian government—were both conditioned on a public announcement of investigations that would have aided Trump politically.

Taylor was crystal clear on that point. He testified that U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland—a hotel tycoon and major Trump donor—told him that Trump wanted to put Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “in a public box” by forcing him to make a public statement ordering investigations of Ukraine’s alleged role in the 2016 U.S. election as well as the gas company, Burisma, where Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, was a board member. “Everything,” Taylor said he was told, was dependent on that public announcement. Taylor was crystal clear on that point. He testified that U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland—a hotel tycoon and major Trump donor—told him that Trump wanted to put Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “in a public box” by forcing him to make a public statement ordering investigations of Ukraine’s alleged role in the 2016 U.S. election as well as the gas company, Burisma, where Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, was a board member. “Everything,” Taylor




https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/...rate-Claims-About-Perfect-Call-562117781.html

Fact Check: Trump's Inaccurate Claims About 'Perfect' Call


“At a Sept. 26 House intelligence committee hearing, Rep. Joaquin Castro asked Maguire, the acting DNI, if the whistleblower’s complaint is “remarkably consistent” with the memo of the phone call that was released by the White House.

“I would say that the whistleblower’s complaint is in alignment with what was released yesterday by the president,” Maguire said.”

 

Thanks for the Trumpian rant. This is how Trump handles business. Like the phony he is he simply echo's back almost word for word the things he knows he's guilty of. He has no concept of originality he simply accuses you of the same things he knows is true of himself but with a louder voice. That's why this sociopath is dangerous for our country
And once again"
Another lie. What a reflection of the Trumpian poison mentality. I told you several times I would address your issue once you address the points in my post. You called these points fantasies which was another way of showing you cant defend your positions. You are the only one here lacking both guts and the truth. So Trumplike.

 

Just as I said, your fantasy. There was no blackmail. You lied! You won’t defend your statement because you can’t.

 

Thanks for the Trumpian rant. This is how Trump handles business. Like the phony he is he simply echo's back almost word for word the things he knows he's guilty of. He has no concept of originality he simply accuses you of the same things he knows is true of himself but with a louder voice. That's why this sociopath is dangerous for our country
And once again"
Another lie. What a reflection of the Trumpian poison mentality. I told you several times I would address your issue once you address the points in my post. You called these points fantasies which was another way of showing you cant defend your positions. You are the only one here lacking both guts and the truth. So Trumplike.

 

You won’t defend your statement because you can’t. From your OP to me, you claimed Trump blackmailed the Ukrainian President. I think that statement of yours is a fantasy. I see no reason to debate someone who lies. If you want me to reply again, answer the question. WHERE IS THE BLACKMAIL?

 

Wow what a tantrum, now you're screaming! Calling someone's post a fantasy because you don't have the guts of skills to refute it is not debating.
Thanks for the Trumpian rant. This is how Trump handles business. Like the phony he is he simply echo's back almost word for word the things he knows he's guilty of. He has no concept of originality he simply accuses you of the same things he knows is true of himself but with a louder voice. That's why this sociopath is dangerous for our country
. What a reflection of the Trumpian poison mentality. I told you several times I would address your issue once you address the points in my post. You called these points fantasies which was another way of showing you cant defend your positions. You are the only one here lacking both guts and the truth. So Trumplike.

 

While women are the largest voting bloc their voting choices are not determined by gender. The majority of black women align with the vast majority of blacks in voting for the Dems. In 2016 53% of white women voted for the BLOTUS and it is that group who are now changing their minds about him. Not all of them are doing so but rather college educated women are being turned off by his overt racism. This is perhaps most apparent in his attacks on the Gang of Four women in Congress. His supporters have dog piled on and the whole thing has exposed the ugly truth about the BLOTUS.

Even amongst Republican women there is concern about the policy of separating children from the parents of asylum seekers. They cannot reconcile that with their own "family values". This has resulted in college educated white women abandoning both the BLOTUS and the GOP.

Women on the whole are not divisive and do not embrace divisiveness. In KS women reached across the partisan divide in order to unite and overturn the odious Libertarian legislation that was destroying the state's economy.

This applies nationwide. Women tend to be less ideological and more pragmatic. They will reject things that do more harm than good. They are uncomfortable supporting anyone who says or does things that are harmful to others.