New York City Police Arrest Alleged Terror Suspect

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    New York City Police Arrest Alleged Terror Suspect


    – An "Al Qaeda sympathizer" accused of plotting to bomb police and post offices in New York City as well as U.S. troops returning home remained in police custody after an arraignment Sunday on numerous terrorism-related charges.

    Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced at a news conference Sunday the arrest of Jose Pimentel of Manhattan, "a 27-year-old Al Qaeda sympathizer" who the mayor said was motivated by terrorist propaganda and resentment of U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.



    Mayor Michael Bloomberg speaks to the media at a City Hall press conference, Sunday, Nov. 20, 2011, in New York. Bloomberg said Jose Pimentel, pictured at right, who plotted to bomb police and post offices in New York City as well as U.S. troops returning home has been arrested on numerous terrorism-related charges.

    Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said police had to move quickly to arrest Pimentel on Saturday because he was ready to carry out his plan.

    "We had to act quickly yesterday because he was in fact putting this bomb together. He was drilling holes and it would have been not appropriate for us to let him walk out the door with that bomb," Kelly said.

    The police commissioner said Pimentel was energized and motivated to carry out his plan by the Sept. 30 killing of Al-Qaeda's U.S.-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki.

    "He decided to build the bomb August of this year, but clearly he jacked up his speed after the elimination of al-Awlaki," Kelly said.

    "He appears to be a total lone wolf," the mayor said. "He was not part of a larger conspiracy emanating from abroad."

    Instead, Bloomberg said, Pimentel represents the type of threat FBI Director Robert Mueller has warned about as U.S. forces erode the ability of terrorists to carry out large scale attacks.

    The FBI was briefed on the matter, but declined involvement, an FBI official told FoxNews.com.

    Ten years after 9/11, New York remains a prime terrorism target. Bloomberg said at least 13 terrorist plots have targeted the city since the Sept. 11 attacks. No attack has been successful. Pakistani immigrant Faisal Shahzad is serving a life sentence for trying to detonate a car bomb in Times Square in May 2010.

    Pimentel, a U.S. citizen originally from the Dominican Republic, Pimentel was "plotting to bomb police patrol cars and also postal facilities as well as targeted members of our armed services returning from abroad," Bloomberg said Sunday.

    He was under surveillance by New York police for at least a year who were working with a confidential informant and was in the process of building a bomb; no injury to anyone or damage to property is alleged, Kelly said. In addition, authorities have no evidence that Pimentel was working with anyone else, the mayor said.

    Pimentel, also known as Muhammad Yusuf, is accused of having an explosive substance Saturday when he was arrested that he planned to use against others and property to terrorize the public.

    The charges accuse him of conspiracy going back at least to October 2010, and include first-degree criminal possession of a weapon as a crime of terrorism, and soliciting support for a terrorist act. He was ordered held without bail at his arraignment later Sunday.

    "This is just another example of New York City because we are an iconic city ... this is a city that people would want to take away our freedoms gravitate to and focus on," Bloomberg said.

    Kelly said a confidential informant had numerous conversations with Pimentel on Sept. 7 in which he expressed interest in building small bombs and targeting banks, government and police buildings.

    Pimentel also posted on his website trueislam1.com and on blogs his support of Al Qaeda and belief in jihad, and promoted an online magazine article that described in detail how to make a bomb, Kelly said.

    Among his Internet postings, the commissioner said, was an article that states: "People have to understand that America and its allies are all legitimate targets in warfare."

    The New York Police Department's Intelligence Division was involved in the arrest. Kelly said Pimentel spent most of his years in Manhattan and lived about five years in Schenectady. He said police in Albany tipped New York City police off to Pimentel's activities.

    Asked why federal authorities were not involved in the case, Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. said there was communication with them but his office felt that given the timeline "it was appropriate to proceed under state charges."

    About 1,000 of the city's roughly 35,000 officers are assigned each day to counterterrorism operations. The NYPD also sends officers overseas to report on how other cities deal with terrorism. Through federal grants and city funding, the NYPD has spent millions of dollars on technology to outfit the department with the latest tools -- from portable radiation detectors to the network of hundreds of cameras that can track suspicious activity.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/20/police-arrest-suspect-in-alleged-terror-plot/#ixzz1eLPGw6SZ

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/20/police-arrest-suspect-in-alleged-terror-plot/









    That's interesting, the authorities are calling this Muslim American a terrorism suspect.


    Why wasn't this guy called a terror suspect? Why didn't the Obama admin charge him with terrorism?







    Suspect pleads not guilty in recruitment center shooting

    A Muslim convert who said he was against the U.S. military pleaded not guilty Tuesday to capital murder in connection with the shooting of two soldiers outside an Arkansas recruiting center.

    One soldier died in the attack Monday, police said.

    Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, 23, was ordered held without bail at a hearing Tuesday in Little Rock. He is charged in the death of Pvt. William Long, 23, of Conway, outside the Army Navy Career Center in Little Rock.

    "This individual appears to have been upset with the military, the Army in particular, and that's why he did what he did," Little Rock Police Lt. Terry Hastings said.

    "He has converted to (Islam) here in the past few years," Hastings said. "We're not completely clear on what he was upset about. He had never been in the military.

    "He saw them standing there and drove up and shot them. That's what he said."

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2009-06-01-army-recruiter-killed_N.htm





    Or this one?







    Fort Hood suspect charged with murder


    Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan has been charged with 13 preliminary counts of premeditated murder stemming from last week's shooting at Fort Hood Army Post, an Army investigator said Thursday.

    Army Criminal Investigation Command spokesman Chris Grey said the investigation continues and Hasan, 39, may face additional charges at court-martial.

    The Department of Defense said the charges make Hasan eligible for the death penalty.

    Grey said Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, remains hospitalized from gunshot wounds he received from two police officers who responded to the November 5 shooting.

    Hasan is accused of killing 13 people -- a dozen soldiers and a civilian -- at the post's processing center, where soldiers were preparing to deploy to Afghanistan and Iraq.

    http://articles.cnn.com/2009-11-12/...dal-malik-hasan-army-psychiatrist?_s=PM:CRIME







    Why would the Obama administration avoid charging Muslim terrorists with terror-related federal charges, if they are successful and actually kill Americans on US soil? Does Obama want to falsely maintain that there have been no successful Muslim terror attacks under his watch? Because there have been.

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    i heard obama say "war on terrorism" a couple of days ago, that's right it was taboo for awhile wasn't it ?? i still say the occupiers left us wide open, with the blessings of the left.
     
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    I still do not think the Obama admin or Dems in general will admit to successful Muslim terror attacks in the US. They will simply lie to maintain the illusion that Islamists aren't a threat on our shores.

    I do think that Obama was shaken up by the failed Underwear bomber on Christmas day. That would have been hard to lie about.

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    I wouldn't admit to successful Muslim attacks either if they didn't happen, such as the one in this case.
     
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    I've provided examples of two successful ones. Would admit that they were domestic Islamic terror attacks?

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    new york city is unfortunately the bullseye for the creepy terrorists. it's just a matter of time before it occurs. but i don't want to look back and say the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) occupiers made it easier for them. it still blows my mind the the new york times still commits treason against it's own city and country. the price of free speech in america. first the benedict arnold gazette steals your land, then they commit treason, all just blocks from ground zero.
     
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    Let's try this again: I wouldn't admit to successful Muslim attacks either if they didn't happen, such as the one in this case.
     
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    The city has ample counter-terrorism capabilities. They can handle any terrorist attack. 9/11 has forced them to devote significant funds to alert systems, disarmament technology, etc.
     
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    Um A, calling him a terrorism suspect, IS calling him a terror suspect.
    B, they have not charged him with "terrorism" because he hasn't actually comitted an act of terrorism.
    They have charged him with conspiracy to comitt terrorism.
    Which aside from in fact being a terrorism related charge, hence calling him a "terrorism suspect".
    Is a wholly apropriate charge to charge him with, IF he was planning some sort of terror attack and there's some sort of evidence to justify such charges.
    (That will be decided at his arraignment though, if it has not already happened).
    Lastly, as for the FT. Hood shooter, they didn't charge him with terrorism charges because in that case, (the Obama admin claims) there wasn't enough evidence to do so.
    Never mind the emails to known radical islamic terrorists the guy had sent, never mind his own, anti-america islamic radical ramblings, which were a matter of record which had already resulted in the guy being transferred once prior.
    That is why "they" (the Obama DOJ) officially at least, are simply treating that one as if it's a "simple" instance of murder.
    However it bears pointing out.
    Anytime someone opens up on the crowd, killing several individuals all in one fell swoop, because they think their religion tells them to do so. it IS an act of terrorism.
    And the individual alleged to have carried out the FT. Hood massacre should have been charged with/as such too.
    You ask why wouldn't the Obama admin do so.
    The answer is simple really.
    Because this President and his justice department aren't the least concerned with upholding the law and our Constitution, unless it will somehow politically benefit them to do so.
    If this President and his attorney general were, there are some New Black Panthers walking around out there right now, who would be sitting in a very small room with bars on the doors and windows.
    Not walking around free, being given yet another chance to show up and wave guns around trying to intimidate voters at a polling location. IF this President were, we wouldn't have seen him ignoring the Constitution to carry out an war against the legitimately recognized government of Libya either. ;)
     
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    Terrorism is a description of motive, the reason a crime was committed (I can't imagine why you chose to highlight their names alone :rolleyes:). With the terror suspect, it is apparently clear what his motive was based on evidence already gathered. With the other two cases, the motive is less clear.

    Both could certainly be seen as terrorism but to convict on that basis, it would be necessary to prove the motive. Without physical evidence or a confession in that direction from the suspect, that would be very difficult. It could even be that bringing terrorism charges could be used by defence teams to bring in extra doubt and make any conviction more difficult.
     
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    So after letting thousand of scumbag hooligan OWS terrorists run free for two months, Bloomberg arrests one terrorist.

    You da man Bloomberg ..... you da man :roll:
     
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    Oh, that's easy.
    Cuz he doesn't want all these terrorism attacks to be chalked up on his watch. Duh.

    Unless it's because he hates America and he's a secret Muslim. You decide, dear unseen reader.
     
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    i'm just wondering if bush had given the order to huntdown and execute an american citizen if it would have been ok like for obama. is that a republican concern ?

    maybe that's how they'll close guantanamo. drop them off in somalia and go hunting. how did the ksm trial turn out anyway?? due process served ok ??

    wik:

    Transfer of the case back to a military commission

    On 7 January 2011 US President Barack Obama signed National Defense Authorization Act which explicitly prohibits the use of US Defense Department funds to transfer detainees from Guantanamo Bay to the United States or other countries. It also bars Pentagon funds from being used to build facilities in the United States to house detainees, as the president originally suggested. The move essentially barred the administration from trying detainees in civilian courts. The president objected to the provision in the bill before signing it, calling it "a dangerous and unprecedented challenge to critical executive branch authority" but also said his team would work with the US Congress to "seek repeal of these restrictions."[114]

    On 4 April 2011 Attorney General Eric Holder announced that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other 9/11 terror suspects will face a military trial at the Guantanamo Bay detention facility. In announcing his decision, Holder was highly critical of Congress for imposing restrictions on the Justice Department's ability to bring the men to New York for civilian trials. "After thoroughly studying the case, it became clear to me that the best venue for prosecution was in federal court. I stand by that decision today," Holder said. "As the president has said, those unwise and unwarranted restrictions (imposed by Congress) undermine our counterterrorism efforts and could harm our national security. Decisions about who, where and how to prosecute have always been - and must remain - the responsibility of the executive branch." Holder insisted, "We were prepared to bring a powerful case against Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his four co-conspirators - one of the most well-researched and documented cases I have ever seen in my decades of experience as a prosecutor." He added, "Had this case proceeded in Manhattan or in an alternative venue in the United States, as I seriously explored in the past year, I am confident that our justice system would have performed with the same distinction that has been its hallmark for over 200 years." Holder had promised to seek the death penalty for each of the five men and on 4 April he warned that it is an "open question" if such a penalty can be imposed by a military commission if the defendants plead guilty.[115]



    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW65vlzLWHg&feature=fvst"]Obama Signs Order to Close Guantanamo in a Year - YouTube[/ame]

    this could go into some of the campaign ads. very successful administration.
     

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