New York legalizes really late term Abortion and celebrates like it's the Super Bowl

Define risk.

There are many Pro-Choicers here who believe that a woman's life is in danger in any pregnancy.

Should abortion be available if it's a 1% risk? Who decides?

New York just passed some new legislation so now a doctor doesn't need to be involved in late-term abortions. A "health professional" working in the clinic can decide the woman's life or health might be affected, and perform the abortion.

 

Physical risk. Isn't that what all states limit it to apart from New York which says "health risk" or something?

And this is unique to NY right?

 

Got proof? IF that happens then there would be ground for deregistraion of the practitioner

 

And there are so called “pro lifers” who would allow both mother the foetus to die

 

No, they don't exist. Name ONE, if you are even remotely capable of doing so.

 

DUH, the people who are screaming against the New York;legislation!!! There's about three threads on it now!!

They call it "murdering babies" NOT saving women's lives!

They believe that a woman should die in child birth before the fetus is ever killed!

WTF do you think they're calling it "baby murder' ??? Because that is all it is to them.....they refuse to acknowledge that it is meant to save women's lives so I can only conclude that they sure don't care about women dying....


FFS, read through some of those threads...

 

kazenatsu said: ↑
That's a lot more common in many clinics than many people realize.

I've asked for proof, too , twice.


Wonder when Anti-Choicers will learn that if you can't prove something then you have no argument...

 

There are entire countries like that..................https://www.hrw.org/report/2018/11/...-criminalization-abortion-dominican-republic#

 

Wow. That I did not know. Totally shocking.

 

They're screaming against the NY legislation because it is NOT JUST about the woman's life being saved. Woman's lives being save was already covered before they made the changes. Are you not aware of this?

 

This is simply inhumane. How many periods does a woman have to miss before she thinks, maybe I am pregnant? Well the law should say that you make the decision to abort within the first two months; and prior to a heartbeat. After that only if necessary to save the mothers life. Beyond that, if 1. The father wants the baby to be carried full Term and signs papers that he claims full responsibility for the Care and well being of the child, his rights should protected.

2. No fetus or newborn or near newborn should be legally aborted where the fetus newborn can survive outside of the womb.

 

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The limit is 23 weeks and most abortions are done at 12 to 18 weeks so women don't really need your opinion.

WHAT RIGHTS?

The right to force a woman to have his kid?

The right to force a woman to abort his kid?

HE DOES NOT HAVE THOSE "RIGHTS"...they don't exist.

Uh, DUH, gee shucks, good thang ya thought of dat...wowsa…

Big shocker for ya...the laws already put the limit at viability (23 weeks)...it was waaaaaaayyyyy ahead of you ...

 

How is that relevant in light of the New York law where abortion can take place on the last day even if the baby is viable?

 

The limit on elective abortions (where there is no immediate danger to women or fetus ) is 23 weeks.

NO, the law does not say an abortion can take place even if the baby is viable UNLESS birthing it may harm or kill the woman.

 

This legal direction seems necessary in this age where the assault on abortion has focused on ways of making abortions difficult to get.

We see what's going on in Louisiana right now and what has happened in Texas.

The constant assault is a denial of rights through procedural means. And, one answer is to take away the tools of that assault - the requirements for who may perform abortions, requirements for admitting rights at a local hospital (which is TOTAL BS), moves to make it expensive, laws allowing harassment of patients and doctors, etc., etc.

 

Don't you think late-term abortions should at least be a little bit difficult to get?

You don't want to casualize these terminations do you? Euthanasia is what it really is.

 

Guess she should have thought about that before, you know...
And she had all that time to get an abortion before then, especially if the sex was a one-time thing she should have had her guard up.
How could she let it get to this point?

Oh, and just because you don't have a perfect little baby doesn't automatically give you the right to abort.
There are lots of people born with a slight disability who go on to live fulfilling lives in society.

 

WTF does that have to do with:

WHAT RIGHTS?

The right to force a woman to have his kid?

The right to force a woman to abort his kid?

HE DOES NOT HAVE THOSE "RIGHTS"...they don't exist.

No, it doesn't . BUT having the right to one's own body DOES!

Completely irrelevant.


Another non-answer to a cherry picked post.....and nothing else..


YOU STILL haven't answered : WHOSE FETUS IS IT?

Why are you ducking that question?.

 

Define "harm."

 

No. It's a common word, look it up.

 

Exactly. The NY law is not about saving the woman's life!

 

I post : ""No. It's a common word, look it up."

And you reply: "Exactly" WTF does that mean?

If a woman would die or be harmed by giving birth the fetus can be killed.

 

Exactly. The NY law is not PURELY about saving women's lives!

 

I never said it was....but you always seem to segue off into unrelated waters when you have no point....and get stumped

 

My point is that talking about the limit of 23 weeks as you did, is pointless when discussing the new NY law.