New Zealand mosques: Several dead after shootings in Christchurch

Looks to me like his illness is that he is simply-bad!, evil. I dont believe bad people need to have a mental illness.

 

So would your stance apply to soldiers who kill for, "God and Country"?

 

I agree..... a Christian cannot be a terrorist.......
but I do think that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus - Issa asked a question of the Pharisees that
leaves the door open for a Christian to be a soldier or a police officer.


Mark 3:4 "And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace."

I am almost certain that Rabbi Jesus- Yeshua was referring to the situation faced by the Machabees when Greco - Syrian armies were attacking Jewish communities on the Sabbath.

One community had refused to fight back...and were massacred...... .but the Machabees....in my opinion correctly judged that this is a violation of an admonition by King Solomon and they decided to fight back even if attacked on the Sabbath.


Ecclesiastes 7:16 "Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?"


Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible, 1 Machabees Chapter 2
http://www.drbo.org/chapter/45002.htm
..
"So they gave them battle on the sabbath: and they were slain with their wives, and their children, and their cattle, to the number of a thousand persons. [39] And Mathathias and his friends heard of it, and they mourned for them exceedingly. [40] And every man said to his neighbour: If we shall all do as our brethren have done, and not fight against the heathens for our lives, and our justifications: they will now quickly root us out of the earth.

[41] And they determined in that day, saying: Whosoever shall come up against us to fight on the sabbath day, we will fight against him: and we will not all die, as our brethren that were slain in the secret places."

 

Do you think Jesus would have joined defense groups in Israel, had they existed?

 

So do you think that any soldier who claims to be a Christian is not a Christian?

 

"Jesus" was a "leftie" so would have joined in the Palestinian cause against Israel. He would have tried peaceful methods and get shot at the border fence or run over by a bulldozer

 

What a crock. No one here in Christchurch is submitting to radical Islam or Sharia. This is not about them, it's about us and our fears and hatreds of those who are different.

 

They aren't Christians like Jesus and his church were Christians, no.

 

So do you think there is a possibility that there are Muslims who are not like Muhamed? Given that about 1.2 billion of them have never attacked you even though you would be considered an infidel?

 

You had a point?

 

Not so. Most people don't fear Buddhist monks, or Jehovah Witnesses
or Trump supporters. What we fear is the influx of people who are fine
as individuals but collectively don't accept who and what you are.
And they also might not like the liberal elite who excuse and condescend
to these people, despite these people despising everything the liberals
claim to hold dear.

Did anyone called the Orlando shooter (who also killed 49 people a
homophobe) a brown supremacist or a Christianaphobe? No, that
ISIS supporter's lethal rampage induced a liberal rage against guns
and Islamophobia.

So I fear Islam because it wants to destroy me. And I fear the liberal
for the same reason.

 

All terrorists are losers but that doesn't prevent some parents from encouraging their children to commit acts of terror.

 

They don't have to attack you. They just feel it's okay for their own
to attack you. After all, it's in the Quran.

 

It's only worthwhile to read his 'manifesto' if it relates to a large organized group of people. The ramblings of one idiot, like the Unabomber, means little.

 

Most Christians feel that it okay for Christian soldiers to attack and kill innocent Muslims who got in the way of the war on terrorism.
After all, it's the lesson of Jericho written in the Bible.

Sorry, dude. But roses don't grow from Christian asses any more than Muslims on the violence issue. Christians have killed more Christians than Muslims have.

 

Terror is part of the Islamic doctrines and is encouraged throughout the Muslim world. There is no such motivations or preachings in Christianity. That's why Islam, though not necessarily Muslims, should be condemned (and ridiculed) wherever it is being taught.

 

How do you know how "most Christian feel"?

And that's your source?

You feel this is a war between Christians and Muslims, Dude? Did you get that from the lesson of Jericho as well?

 

Please recharge your sarcasm meter.

 

Actually he is far from that.

He was a murderer, thief, slave trader, sexual pervert, rapist, and a slew of other adjectives.

This is the person Muslims are supposed to emulate.


Yes, some could read and write, but not in Mecca, a desert community far off the beaten path.
The reason we know so little about these people is everyone was illiterate, and nothing was written down.

 

There's a good argument to just ignore all of this, I agree completely. But we are on a thread about the topic, and if we're going to confront the issue I firmly believe we are better off doing so on an informed basis.

 

Why would you expect anything else when you use Jericho as a source? I was being kind.

 

True.......... we Christians have quoted parts of the Bible
in order to justify our killing people with somewhat different
beliefs.

What our ancestors participated in against the First Nations tribes of North America and South America
was mind boggling...........
but the Roman Catholic vs Protestant and Protestant vs Roman Catholic wars were
in some ways just as bad.


Matthew Fox Ph.D:

I personally kind of like the explanation shown to the gifted Christian psychic Rick Joyner..... He was shown demons..... riding on top of Christians..... leading them to attack other Christians...... (and of course Muslims and Jews as well).


http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html

Rick Joyner:

 

Yes, but what possible information could this guy give us? I think this is much larger than just one man and involves culture, education, immigration and a whole myriad of issues. These are questions all the democracies must face but are not doing so. Instead it's childish, left wing/right wing, racist, fascist, etc name calling while the problems continue to flourish and grow.

 

People with psychic or even prophetic gifts can be led to do extremely evil acts.

The following article is one of the best to get some hope for the future.

https://www.near-death.com/religion/islam.html

 

A powerful case can be presented that the refugee crisis was deliberately created
to attempt to set up something pretty diabolical in Europe, America, Canada, Australia:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...lect-on-georgia.218425/page-8#post-1065258190

Could ISIS have been stopped at the border of Iraq if.....

The Iraqi soldiers and officers had decided to stand their ground and fight?
I personally think that AboveAlpha's analysis of what was possible back then,
is accurate...........
Yes..... ISIS could have been stopped at the border of Iraq if
the military personnel of Iraq had responded better to the situation
and opportunity that was in front of them.