Nikki Haley breaks with Trump: 'We shouldn't have followed him'

~ Some of us were suspicious of Haley when she quit the Trump administration. She hangs around Lindsey Graham too much. Most Republicans are old school dinosaurs - not part of the revised "people's" party that Trump created.
She did a good job when she was there. I doubt we will see much of her or Mitt Romney in the future .

 

Hmmm yes McConnell did target the Tea Party.

McConnell: We're Going to 'Crush' Tea Party Candidates in GOP Primaries This Year

Now of course, McConnell was successful and the Tea Party is for all intents and purposes, dead. So dead that it didn't really participate in any meaningful way in the 2016 elections. And McConnell is a wiley political operator with access to a lot of donor money, so it's possible he could destroy the Trumpists, America Firsters, MAGA's, whatever you want to call them, just like he did with the Tea Party.

Then what? There are not enough Lincoln Project Pedo's and Wall Street Journal editorial board members to vote in a dog catcher. If you run the MAGA people off and they don't come back, there is effectively no Republican Party.

 

I was excited about the tea party, but then they put out their key idiots, who said things like, "keep government out of my medicare," and they lost me.

 

My apologies. Even more reason to admire Mitch.

 

I don't remember that idiot. Who are you talking about?

 

There were boatloads of them, and they were everywhere.

 

I agree with that last bit. However, the Tea Party didn't die. They just stopped using the name. If Trump had not entered the race, then Tea Party darling Ted Cruz would have been the "outsider" darling who would have won the nomination, and probably the presidency. Remember how absolutely agonized Lindsey Graham was in making an almost tearful speech in trying to decide between endorsing either Trump or Cruz? LOL Until Trump came along, Cruz held the title of "most hated man in Washington" for his anti-establishment platform. That was such a "special" time.

 

Oh...you were ran off by randos with signs? I thought you were talking about candidates. Well that goes to show you, if there is one idiot in a movement, than I guess the entire movement is stupid.

 

If there were no Trump in 2016, I'm skeptical that Cruz would have gotten the nomination. Because he never got close, everyone just sort of ignored the fact that he was born in Canada, but the fact is, he's not qualified to be President. The Democrats would have loved it though, particularly if Cruz got the nomination they could file in Federal court that he wasn't eligible.

Cruz was most hated man in Washington because of his personality, not his platform.

 

You mean when Trump spent months insulting Cruz and calling his wife ugly? Yeah - Cruz really hit back hard by putting his head up Trump's ass. "Thank you dear leader calling my wife ugly. Thank you for questioning my Christian beliefs. Thanks for calling me a coward! Thanks for informing me that my family assassinated Kennedy."

Cruz is a putz of the highest magnitude. Both men are vile.

 

I think you are missing the point. I don't like to be associated with idiots. This is why I belong to neither party. Every tea party interview I saw was filled with clueless nonsense.

 

Idiots? Repeated from #73 (bolding added):

". . . McConnell remembers, if few others do, the names of Delaware’s Christine O’Donnell (“I dabbled into witchcraft,” but “I’m not a witch”), Missouri’s Todd Akin (“legitimate rape” does not cause pregnancy), Indiana’s Richard Mourdock (a woman made pregnant by her rapist is carrying a “gift from God”), Nevada’s Sharron Angle (“Second Amendment remedies” might cure Congress’s shortcomings) and others who won and then squandered Republican Senate nominations in 2010 and 2012. This was before McConnell began wielding the national party’s resources in defense of its interests in state parties’ decisions. . . ."

 

Every single Republican candidate in 2016 was polling to beat Hillary Clinton, except for Trump. That's why Left State Media gave Trump $2 Billion in free media (and tried unsuccessfully to turn Trump into a joke) while more "serious" politicians got zero coverage.

Cruz was the most hated man in Washington because of his personality, not his platform. That is true. That is identically true of Donald Trump. When Steve Bannon dumped his endorsement of Cruz in favor of Trump during the 2016 primaries, Trump's platform became 100% the same as Cruz's platform with the exception of the trade tariff plank. That is also the point in time when Trump and Cruz went from "buddies" to "arch enemies" on the trail. Cruz lost Bannon's(Breitbart) support and Trump gained it.

Left Wing Media was giving all the attention to Trump and not Cruz, but Bannon knew that the Tea Party platform was a winner. Trump had the celebrity, household name, plus the media built him up to be a "villain", which is exactly what the anti-establishment right needs. Cruz's demise as "the outsider" presidential contender was just fate in a vicious political world. C'est la vie!

A little history for those with foggy memories. Andrew Breitbart was a huge backer of the Tea Party, and of Ted Cruz. After Breitbart unexpectedly died and Bannon took over Breitbart's website internet content and style, Breitbart publishing became a lot more coarse and brutal. The Tea Party seemed to disappear with original founder Andrew Breitbart's demise. The online content morphed into a tougher, meaner, and less scrupled organization under Bannon. Still, the America First (or Neo-Tea Party) is a winning platform, and Trump was the one to carry the mantel.

The late Andrew Breitbart saw in Ted Cruz the future of the conservative movement.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ervative-hero-admired-cruz-s-fighting-spirit/

 

The GOP's failure in 2016 to nominate John Kasich for President was a significant wrong turn.

 

The right-wing was in no mood for more Milquetoasts.

The success of the Tea Party, followed by Trump's success, reflects the rising anger at the rollover RINOs.

 

Hardly a Milquetoast. You can look up his record.
But for those who preferred a crotch-grabbing, draft-dodging, information-averse, serial marital cheater, then I guess Trump was the guy.

 

I vet every candidate for every election, local, state and national.

If right-wing voters go back to a Republican RINO nominee in 2024, then I'm going back to voting 3rd Party in protest of The Established Oligarchy of RINO/DINO corruption.

 

"I think you are missing the point. I don't like to be associated with idiots."

No I got the point, I just don't think it's a very useful point. Tea Party protests had a handful of people with random idiot signs, so therefore their entire platform and polices were idiotic. This I assume, is opposed to every other movement?

If you "don't like to be associated with idiots" than you can't very well vote for a candidate (because some of that candidates supporters will be idiots), support any policy positions (because some other people who support those positions will be idiots), or vote, because... wait for it...some of those other voters are going to be idiots.

 

I think your point seems to be that since there were Tea Party people who were idiotic, the Tea Party was idiotic. That about cover it?

 

"RINO" has become a mere catcall with no meaning.

 

Among Republicans, not all in the Tea Party were idiots, but all idiots were in the Tea Party.

 

Well no, Trump's platform did not become the same as Cruz's and again, I'm a bit incredulous that we are all pretending that he was ever eligible to President. He's not a native born citizen, so sorry, but he was never ever going to be President.

I didn't understand why people ignored this in 2016 and I don't understand why everyone is ignoring it now.

 

Well that clearly isn't true. The GOP was known as the stupid party long before the Tea Party and will be the stupid party well into the future...until the party collapses from all that stupidity of course.

 

After listening to Samantha Powers and her lies at the UN, I thought that maybe Haley would give us back some credibility. But she just followed suit and spitted out the same lies as if she had undergone the same CIA training course as Powers.

Good riddance Haley! Join the Democrats, that's where you belong.

 

...every man for himself?
"He who has the gold makes the rules"?