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No deal: Pelosi rejects Trump’s offer to legalize 'Dreamers' for wall money

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by US Conservative, Jan 19, 2019.

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seriously whats she waiting for?
     
    US Conservative, Jan 21, 2019
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  2. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    We have a Mexican standoff on our hands here.


    [Edit: oops, was that racist???]
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Mexico.
    [​IMG]
     
    ronv, Jan 21, 2019
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  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    We're talking NOW. Everything Pelosi wanted is in the proposal so why won't she pass it?
     
    Bluesguy, Jan 21, 2019
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  5. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Mitch.
     
    ronv, Jan 21, 2019
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    Pants Well-Known Member

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    I surely do get that. You are proving the point that he is using government workers as a bargaining chip in his 'negotiation'. Thanks for that.
     
    Pants, Jan 21, 2019
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    Oh, I see: Republicans are not merely wrong, in your opinion; but they lack "integrity."

    In any case, if you were to eliminate just one state--the state of California--Donald Trump would have had more popular votes that Hillary Clinton managed.

    Are you saying, then, that California--which I will not even begin to describe, as I would surely use words, then, that would result in my banning from this forum--should, by itself, decide our presidential victor?

    Or even, for that matter, that California, New York, and Illinois should (as I posited previously)?

    I am truly hoping that you will not avoid the question this time.
     
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    Ok. If republicans lost the EC but won the popular vote — especially four times — do you believe they would just be sitting back going “oh that’s just the system”? Even trump was against the EC before he was for it.

    California is the sixth largest economy in the world. That you want to eliminate them simply because they don’t agree with your agenda is disgusting.

    Remove evangelicals — trump would have lost the EC
    Remove the elderly — trump would have lost the EC

    Furthermore California by itself does not determine the victor so your question is absurd.
     
    cd8ed, Jan 21, 2019
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LMAO...And your turd polishing is priceless.
     
    Surfer Joe, Jan 21, 2019
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    OK, since you can't adress the point (because you already know that I will bury you in backup), you just make something up that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

    Sorry, but you don't seem to be able to grasp the idea that trying to put words in other people's mouths doesn't improve your lack of an argument.
     
    TomFitz, Jan 21, 2019
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  12. Andrew Jackson

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    An excellent point.

    Imagine if the situation had been reversed in 2016.

    If Trump had won the Popular Vote and lost the EC.

    His conspiratorial fever swampers would've been delusionally screaming that the "Election was stolen by the Deep State", Appalachia and every Trailer Park in the Rust Belt would've been turned into Combat Zones (due to a bunch of crazed gun worshippers) and they would've had to mobilize the National Guard to restore order (after several murders and suicides courtesy of Trump's RW).

    As far as a "deal"?

    There is nothing to negotiate.

    Trump need to drop the Wall demand (as a pre-condition to reopen the Gov't) or the shutdown lasts until 2021.

    The Shutdown is 100% on Trump. Period.
     
    Andrew Jackson, Jan 21, 2019
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    I think its important to understand nancy and chuck have been in congress for 20+ years.

    Trumps only been President for 2.

    So I think we all know who is responsible for the **** state at the border
     
    BestViewedWithCable, Jan 21, 2019
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    That's especially funny since Schumer and Pelosi won't even negotiate.
     
    Professor Peabody, Jan 21, 2019
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    Not my fault Democrats are Open Borders "Sanctuary" nuts.

    Democrats are mainly haters at this point

    "It's OK When We Do It", Part CXLVIII:
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    Zorro, Jan 21, 2019
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    Lol...Yeah, your great orange hope.
    He has been using illegal immigrants as cheap labor for decades.
     
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    Nancy and the Dems just told the young illegal to stop Dreaming...the door is shut...so sad
     
    struth, Jan 21, 2019
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Nancy and Chuck havent fixed our broken immigration system and theyve been in government for 20+ years.

    To blame Trump for it, is just dishonest
     
    BestViewedWithCable, Jan 21, 2019
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    How about if Trump's proposal is put on the Senate floor, but amendments make the bill acceptable to Pelosi and the HR so that the government can reopen. The final bill would cut out the money for the wall.
     
    Liberation Poet, Jan 21, 2019
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    I think if dems ended the refugee loophole enabled withholding of funds to santusry cities and states and funded $5 billion for non wall hardware and personel I could accept that
     
    Mac-7, Jan 21, 2019
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  21. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd take it.
     
    US Conservative, Jan 21, 2019
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    The libs claim they are for real border security

    That is one way they could prove it

    Then we can fight over the wall during the next CR
     
    Mac-7, Jan 21, 2019
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    Yeah.

    Forget about dealing with refugees or sanctuary cities.

    BUT,

    I could live with the bolded section.

    Let's get it done.
     
    Andrew Jackson, Jan 21, 2019
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  24. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem is NANCY won't let it happen.
     
    US Conservative, Jan 21, 2019
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    If you had a good plan you wouldn't need to "fight" over it.
     
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