No evidence for Hillary Clinton's claim that ISIS is using videos of Donald Trump

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In hillarys defense, she just mailed the videos, it will take a coupla days before ISIS, receives them. Its christmas time, so UPS is super busy.
     
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    Just one more to add to her list of lies or was she just confused again?
     
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    In fact, who ISIS does use as a recruiting tool in videos is President Obama specifically that he is far too afraid to put any American troops against this and, accordingly, they can defeat his cowardice. That has exactly been in ISIS videos.
     
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    ISIS doesn't need a video of Trump or Obama, they are going to kill no matter what, you'd have to be a partisan or a complete moron to think any different!
     
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    Yes, but are you still going to vote for her?
     
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    Yes it is....but Hillary doing it repeatedly. Publicly before the camera and now in Televised Debates. Doesn't mean nothing should be said. Nor that Hillary should not be encountered over her lying.

    Oh and it wasn't just Politi Fact this time. It was all the MS Media and CNN Fact Checkers that busted her out with this lie over Trump.
     
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    No more than I'm going to vote for some GOP cretin.
     
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    He should. Although I am not sure if videos exist right now, Trump only helps our enemy. Malala Yousafzai said as much, and I'll jump on the bandwagon of someone who stood up to the Taliban for hers and others' rights, and took a bullet to the head for it, before I'll jump on the bandwagon of someone who has never risked his body for anything, and has only stood up for making money.
     
  10. Pred

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    ANY video of us enjoying our freedoms helps our enemy. The only thing that doesn't drive them bonkers would be us dying and burning or submitting to Allah. You're treat them like rational educated people. They're not.

    Guess you're not a fan of Hillary then because she never sacrificed anything? Never mind. She was shot at by Taliban snipers😃

    By the way, Trump has provided jobs to 1000s for decades. Hillary hasn't provided anything for anyone in her entire life.
     
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    I'm no fan of either. Both are members of the same class: completely disassociated from real Americans. They know how to schmooze at cocktail parties and fancy restaurants and that's it.
     
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    Relatively. One is a businessman and one is a career politician though. There is some difference😉
     
  13. GlobalCitizen

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    Aren't they 2 sides of the same coin? Trump has admitted to paying these politicians for sway. He says everyone is doing that. And what I take from it is if you aren't willing to participate in that immoral game at the common citizens' expense, you aren't getting anywhere, in business or politics.
     
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    In response to the OP, perhaps what Hillary said isn't all that far from what is happening - that is, we know that ISIS can make videos and put them out on the web - no big deal - and they use those videos to recruit more jihadist suckers to die for their cause. Now then, has The Donald made any inflammatory comments about Islam? Sure has, and they haven't gotten any better. Now, there's this little report from a couple of weeks ago:

    Note highlighted section above - just how exactly do you think they are "telling" people about what Trump says? Send them letters? Hillary may have slightly exaggerated a bit, but it is far closer to our reality today than those who'd say it's a flat-out lie.
     
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    Link to the fatwa from the Hamas leader who allied Hamas with Al Qaeda right after 9/11, and I will show you a video of hundreds of cheering Muslims after 9/11. It was on the News, on 9/11, and they found those videos very easily.

    Why not just tell the truth, Trump was mistaken; end of story. It was not treason, it was not a violation of oath of office, it was not a threat to kill all receptive ears, and it was not a threat to destroy the very fabric of Democracy.

    “Here's what you said at 11:00 that night, approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video, you say to your family, ‘Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an Al Qaeda- like group.’" (REP. JIM JORDAN (R-OH)) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...testifies-before-house-committee-on-benghazi/

    "The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of [an Al Qaeda- like group]." (Clinton)

    "The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of [those that believe the wooden horse is a gift from Athena]." (Clinton)

    “Let me state very clearly that the United States has absolutely nothing to do with this video. We absolutely reject its contents.” (Clinton) http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...-pakistan-ad-denouncing-anti-muslim-film?lite

    “And we also need to make sure that the really discriminatory messages that Trump is sending around the world don’t fall on receptive ears.” (Clinton)

    How does the traitorous National Socialist Obamanation plan on doing that?

    Exterminate all Muslims? Got Ovens?

    “‘We’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video,’ said Hillary Clinton.”
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331806/incredible-shrinking-president-mark-steyn

    “If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or”
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

    "’[T]he fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient reason for suppressing it. Indeed, if it is the speaker's opinion that gives offense, that consequence is a reason for according it constitutional protection. [485 U.S. 46, 56] For it is a central tenet of the First Amendment that the government must remain neutral in the marketplace of ideas.’ Id., at 745-746.” http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=485&invol=46

    Got it, having him arrested.

    "For often in battle there is no doubt that if a man will throw away his arms, and fall on his knees before his pursuers, he may escape death; and in other dangers there are other ways of escaping death, if a man is willing to say and do anything. The difficulty, my friends, is not in avoiding death, but in avoiding unrighteousness; for that runs faster than death." http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/apology.html
     
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    Seems everything is a recruiting tool for them. Kill them it is a tool, lock them up it is a tool, talk tough its still a tool. Maybe we should just ignore them and hope for the best

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    Id rather have the guy doing the paying than the one taking the money.
     
  17. Penrod

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    It was Obama and Hillary that made the video about Benghazi a big deal . Few had heard about it until they made it the reason for the attack. Plus look what I just found

    shameless-liars-obama-admin-tried-to-tie-benghazi-attack-to-this-video-before-they-settled-on-second-video

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/shameless-liars-obama-admin-tried-to-tie-benghazi-attack-to-this-video-before-they-settled-on-second-video/

    [video=youtube;Vyt-L96VirU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyt-L96VirU[/video]

    They made it famous
     
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    This is a point that view people understand. We celebrate so-called "moderate Muslims" for rejecting violence and extremism, yet they may still end up embracing those things if we say certain things that they don't like. So can they really be considered "moderates" if they are that easily converted to terrorism?
     
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    There is nothing you posted that supports your accusations.
    Web site unavailable.

    There is noting on the video that support your accusations.
     
  20. Penrod

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    Try this one

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/20/document-obama-administration-first-tried-blame-different-youtube-video-benghazi-attack/

    You dont think them blaming the attack on the video and making a video apologizing for it made many more Muslims view it? Or even give them any idea it existed? It was they who made it a big deal.
     
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    Hillary took a "bullet to the head"? That has not been reported, but it would certainly explain a lot
     
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    I know the Trump rhetoric and the mindless xenophobic response to it is affecting recruiting because it is affecting me. I've contributed to the fight against these terrorists for 11 years. I'm trying to find a way to contribute as a civilian. But the more I see this guy and his hateful crowds, the less I want to try to help. I'm thinking becoming a hermit in the northern Canadian woods and America's racists can handle their problems on their own.

    His rhetoric is affecting the recruiting of your own people, much less people susceptible to recruitment by Daesh.
     
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    Am I to understand that Trumpies think that no one in the Middle East watches TV? Or that Middle East TV doesn't cover what El Trumpo says?
     
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    How many of the MS fact Checkers that called Hillary out for the lie......did you need? Damn near all of them called her out on it.

    Did you come up with any good excuses why Daesh uses pics and footage of Bilbo the Clown/Her husband that use to be President.....yet?

    What type of excuses can you come up for that?
     

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