No means no and yes may not mean yes.

I fail to see how MGTOW or MRA groups are radical groups akin to feminism. I don't see M groups using the hashtag #killallwomen, but I sure as hell do see feminists using the hashtag #killallmen. They are allowed to do so with impunity because patriarchy.

Who said lots of money? I have several personal projects rolling that require time and money, if a concert suddenly costs twice as much, if dinner suddenly costs twice as much, those are all expenses that are removed from my interests.

Maybe they have been the wrong women, no one has offered to or paid for dinner. lol

 

back then they needed a man to take care of them, now both genders can support themselves, so it's equal, it's not just the men that can have sex with anyone willing

birth control plays a part too, as before a women had to worry about getting pregnant.... some religious people still have to worry about this, probably why most Abortions are had by Christians

while this has it's problems too, I think it's better then it was for many.... people can still chose the old way, just most do not

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What do you think about the claim about "rape" though? I'd say it's pretty absurd, right up there with the Andrea Dworkin idea that "all straight vaginal sex is rape".

I'm not sure what exactly the Marxist chick in question meant by her crazy idea, but do you think that a person should be able to voluntarily consent to sex, then a few days later 'change their mind' and have the person arrested for rape?

 

I think if both parties say yes it's not rape, even if both parties been drinking.....

 

absolutely..... but the problem is, when both say yes while drunk, then the girl regrets it the next day.... the guy's life is ruined because she was ashamed, or because her bf/hubby found out about her extra-marital actions and she's claiming rape, after the fact, in order to save her marriage.


I'm all for prosecuting ********s to the fullest extent of the law if they forced it, pressured her by refusing to take her home unless she had sex for example, or real date-rape where they drug her, or have sex with an unconcious girl... but due process demands if we're about to ruin a guy's life..... we should be allowed to ask the girl hard questions. And we should be allowed to demand more than just he said/she said before we throw away the key on a guy.

but it seems, if we do, we are automatically labeled a mysogonist, and a "supporter of rape"

 

I agree, false reports are as evil as rape, both are wrong

 

Glad to hear, because if this kook's idea ever became law - the next time I'm plastered and end up going home with a fat chick, I'm going to file rape charges against her when I sober up

 

I had that exact thing happen...


I got plastered at my brother's house and had planned to just stay over there after the bonfire. But I got to texting every girl in my phone. The girl that responded, was a girl I had a blind date with the night prior. She was nice, but she was fat and the date was just me trying not to be forced to kiss her at the end of the night. I had no intentions (while sober) of pursuing anything.

well, she replied to my drunk text the next night. She was in bed, and about 10 minutes away from where I was at and wanted to make sure I got home safely. So she got up, came to my brother's house, and picked me up to take me home. On the way home, I got sick twice.... so she knew I was plastered.

Well, drunk Javis was also horny so I figured, why not, and had sex with her. When I sobered up though, I regretted the decision I wouldn't have made while sober (which was proven the blind date night)

it's hilarious to the extent that I posted this story on PF.com, and I did it very 'gender-nuetrually" meaning, I told the story, but never clearly said that I was a male. So when people read it thinking I was a female, the feminazis on the board were screaming "that's date rape, press charges" I went on to say I didn't want to because I initiated everything. THey said it didn't matter, because (he) took advantage of me.

Finally, someone that knew I was a male, pointed that out on the thread, and the feminazis began "blaming the victim" and told me that I was an alcoholic and needed to control my liquor.


it's hilarious to watch how quickly a feminazi's beliefs about victim blaming change when it's a male that was "victimized"

had a male done exactly what that female did, it would be considered date rape
when a female does it.... the male is an alcoholic

 

Not really. They don't put men in prison on a "she said" basis.

 

there are worse things than prison. Inability to ever find meaningful employment based on a she said is a huge issue. Always being called a rapist, no matter what the evidence said... Ask Jameis Winston about that one. Being kicked out of your university despite the rape proven to be be false.... ask the Duke Lacrosse team.

Being forced to resign your job as a coach over a false accusation by a stripper at a party you were not even at and then finding out later, there was no rape. Ask the Duke Lacrosse Coach.

 

My point exactly, I have no issue with any person who points out radical feminism and would, after researching, condemn them as much as the next person .. however to many posters in this section indulge in generalization, they see some right-wing article and latch on to it as proof-positive that feminism as a whole is simply bad.

 

because like all the other special interest groups championed by liberals..... they have run out of legitamate gripes to complain about, but still like the job that is now not needed, so they invent discrimination.


"women get paid 70 cents on the dollar compared to men"

truth is, they are paid equal to their male counterparts with the same experience and skillset.... but the fact it took the woman 15 years to get 10 years of professional experience, vs the man, 10 years to get 10 years experience, because he didn't take 5 years off staying at home with the kiddos..... So when both are 40 years old, the man has been in the workforce longer, making his experience that much more than the 40 yo woman with the same education.

 

I disagree

I have never adhered to the 70 cents pay-gap, however even the latest research points to a ~5% discrepancy between men and women's pay when all factors are equal eg qualifications, experience etc for which there is no reason .. would you care to comment on that discrepancy?

BTW : The latest research does take into account career choices such as child bearing and that research was provided by a quite fanatical anti-feminist poster here in this very forum - http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender Wage Gap Final Report.pdf - though even that report is disputed - and YET even that report finds an ~5% discrepancy that cannot be accounted for, so I ask you would you accept an ~5% drop in pay based on your gender?

 

Why on earth didn't you delete her number?

 

There is always recourse in the law for those situations. Imprisonment for the false accuser, for example.

 

IDK.... I never delete numbers really..... it's all saved on Google contacts now, so now, I can't just not put in her number whenever I get a new phone... it's just automatically in there when I sign my google account to my new phone.


I do think I had to finally delete her from fb and phone. She was a stage 5 clinger.

 

I'm just not big on fatties myself, at best I can see myself 'hooking up' with one, but definitely not dating - even then I'd feel embarrassed about it

Saddest part is that 50% of more of the women I run into in a daily basis are obese in my part of the country - every now and then when I'm horny I get tempted to ask out a fattie (if she has a cute voice or personality that can slightly make up for being a little overweight), but I usually don't bother.

 

Just going to add here - I'm not a legal expert but the feminists in question don't know what they're talking about.

As far as I know, there's no actual law against having sex with a drunk person so long as they aren't passing out - unless you purposely gave them the alcohol and "got them drunk", it's not legally rape

 

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According to FBI stats, only 2 % of all rape accusations are false. - Source

 

The problem is when people make dubious claims about "unreported rape".

Not to mention that even if rape were as common and unreported as is made out to be, it would still be only a small percentage of people committing the majority of rapes.

 

the thing is.... claiming they were drunk is a way women can claim they were raped. Both genders make horrible decisions while drunk, in regards to who they have sex with. Guys will sleep with fat chicks they would never dream about having sex with sober (I shamefully know this all too well), and girls cheat on their b/f's all the time on girl night outs after getting blitzed.


The difference is, the next day, the guy's friends all make fun of him for hogging
the girl feels like a slut or her b/f finds out she cheated, and she claims it was date rape to cover up for it.

 

that doesn't count cases like the duke lacrosse case because that case was simply dropped due to lack of evidence that rape occurred. Nevermind she had made previous reports of similar nature earlier in her life, strongly suggests she was quick on the false accusations.... however, due to the publicity of that case.... find me someone willing to attempt to prosecute her.

Short of a recording or text message from the girl to the guy that says....



how many times is it politically safe to go after a girl that claims rape she can't prove

 

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Even if it's 6 to 8%, it would still mean that 92% are bona fide. Having said that, there is nothing more loathsome than a woman who falsely accuses someone of rape.

 

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Proof? I've never heard such a thing.

 

People like Jerry Sandusky and Ted Bundy come to mind

You're saying you think the majority of people are rapists, but that it's just under-reported?

A big chunk of rapes are "statutory rape" anyway, so this is where the grey area lies - since while an 18 year old sleeping with a 16 year old might be illegal in one state, it might be legal in another; but most people would agree that this person isn't the same danger to society as someone who rapes 7 year old girls or boys