No Scientist Really Understands Macroevolution!

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    I posted evidence.

    I posted 100% Certifiable Fact.

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    No, I know it can't be so defined, because you've made it plain there is no such thing as "the biological theory of evolution".
     
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    Whales faving a femur bone is one

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    Some people ignore the evidence when it suits them
     
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    Just to add the bones in our ears that allow us to hear evolved from a reptilian jaw bone.

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    Microevolution occurs. There's no debate about that.

    Here's the difference between micro and macro evolution:



    http://www.icr.org/article/what-difference-between-macroevolution-microevolut/


    Macroevolution requires new additional genetic information! The first single-celled organism did not possess all of the genetic information for humans. For humans to have evolved from that single-celled organism would require a lot of genetic information to be added along the way!
    There is no known way for entirely new genetic information to be added to a genome.

    Darwinists hoped that genetic mutation would provide the mechanism for it.......but, that's not the case.

    http://www.icr.org/article/mutation-fixation-dead-end-for-macro-evolution/
     
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    Quantum Evolution is the proper term as Micro Level is still actually Maco Level.

    Anything at the Atomic Level and up is Macro Level.

    And in reality there is no difference between Quantum Evolution and Macro Evolution as everything that is matter and energy is comprised of Quantum Particle/Wave Forms of Energy.

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    That's just an assumption. An extrapolation.


    http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_05

    What is "mammal-like?" Is it a mammal or not?
     
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    This one cuts and pastes creationist lies and misrepresentations from the Institute for Creation Research ("ICR"). He must be a young Earth creationist. Those guys are funny.
     
  9. AboveAlpha

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    It's not an assumption.

    They have the fossil records for this.

    AA

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    The funny thing is if a person has a cheap microscope..a few slides...some sugar water, bleach and an afternoon they can watch evolution occur with their own eyes.

    AA
     
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    Good. That's a start.

    What biological process stops or halts microevolution from becoming macroevolution, over time of course?

    Since microevolution occurs between generations and occurs in the parents' gametes given to their offspring, any such process must be in the gamete DNA.

    Where is it in the homo sapiens sapiens species? In which chromosome is it located? What or which genes are involved?

    Come on, you have the backing and support of the ICR, those creation scientists with all that peer reviewed scientific papers. Certainly, you (or they) kn ow the answers to these simple and probing questions.
     
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    No its called a theory with a large body of evidence supporting it. As any credible theory would have. Gravity is a theory too. And there is a large body of evidencesupporting it.

    Please, explain away the femur bone of a whale? Why would a whale have a femur bone?

    You are using the word "assumption" as if scientists absent mindedly assumed these things while they were drunk one day.

    Please know that it highly reputable scientific community who use a empirical meathod to formulate highly credible theories.

    Any scientist who formed a theory without a large body of evidence backing it up would not be taken seriously by the scientific comunity. Something that doesn't have much evidence generally don't stick. The fact that most scientists believe in evolution should be a testiment of how credible this theory is and how much evidence there is supporting them.

    Sure there are few scientistseconds who claim evolution isn't real, but they are laughed at and no one takes them seriously.
     
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    Cite your reference, and be specific about it. Don't expect me to sift through a site. We're not scientists here....
     
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    I hold advanced degrees in Particle Physics, Cosmology and Astronomy.

    And it's Physics 101 to understand the Macro Level begins at the Atomic level.

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    Never mind my source. Deal with the message.

    Of course parents will pass their genetic information to their offsprings! So all that you stated is irrelevant!

    We're talking about NEW genetic information being added to a genome.
     
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    Well then. I defer to your interpretation of our communications, as faulty and vacuous as it is.

    You win, smart guy. Carry on.
     
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    Every time you get a Cold or other Virus new genetic information is being directly encoded into your Genome.

    Various chemical reactions via UV-Light, Toxicity...etc...does the same.

    This causes Mutation.

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    No disrespect, but you can't expect me to take your word for it. You're in a forum....you should understand that.


    If you're going to make claims, you've got to back it up.
     
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    Are you actually asking me to back up such a simple understanding as the Macro Level begins at the Atomic Level???????

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    So we're back to mutation!
     
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    Well yeah!!

    Mutation is a part of evolution.

    AA
     
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    But your source is a disingenuous creationist website, full of lies and misrepresentations. Apparently, that does not matter to you. It matters to me, and to other rational thinkers.

    You failed to answer my questions. Again, let me repeat:

    What biological process stops or halts microevolution from becoming macroevolution, over time of course?

    Since microevolution occurs between generations and occurs in the parents' gametes given to their offspring, any such process must be in the gamete DNA.

    Where is it in the homo sapiens sapiens species? In which chromosome is it located? What or which genes are involved?

    To move on, no you are simply repeating the phrase "NEW genetic information" (By the way, the ALL CAPS and red are impressive - good touch). You got that from those disingenuous and duplicitous creationist liars at ICR. You are emplying what is commonly known as the "creationist information canard". I'm willing to address that with you. But first, you need to answer my questions, which I repeat again (and I put them in red because you apparently think that red text is important:

    What biological process stops or halts microevolution from becoming macroevolution, over time of course?

    Since microevolution occurs between generations and occurs in the parents' gametes given to their offspring, any such process must be in the gamete DNA.

    Where is it in the homo sapiens sapiens species? In which chromosome is it located? What or which genes are involved?
     
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    You posted:




    Well I don't know why you have to throw quantum evolution into this since it's only a hypothesis.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_theories_of_quantum_evolution


    But by George....I do agree with you that there's no difference between quantum evolution and macroevolution! :smile:
     
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    Projection, obviously.

    No, you lose. Again.
     
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    This is like asking me to prove 1 + 1 = 2.

    I find your lack of knowledge disturbing.

    AA
     
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    So far there is no evidence for macroevolution.......
    .................................therefore, there must be something that stops microevolution from becoming macroevolution.
    I don't have to name what process it is (if it's a process that stops it), I'm not a scientist!


    When you can finally come up with an evidence for macro evolution, then you can say that nothing stops microevolution
    from becoming macro. But right now, the way things are....we only have micro.

    By the looks of it - with claims to evidence for macroevolution being debunked - micro is just what we'll have.
     

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