No, the vaccine will not be mandatory.

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    We shall see.
    We responded to disease with public health measures like sewers and water purification.
    How about the polio vaccine?

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/children-receive-first-polio-vaccine
     
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    When I was a little kid, getting the smallpox vaccination was a rite of passage, A big deal. I didn't know what it was for. I just knew I was going to get that neat scab on my arm. I hope the vaccine that comes out of Operation warped mind is as effective as the one discovered by Edward Jenner for smallpox.
     
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    You: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: Your trash talk doesn't sense.
    Propaganda Alert!
    Don't care much about your amusing BS. I'm in British Columbia where I chose to ride the pandemic out. Oregon was okay, but not the best choice. There is very little virus circulating in BC.

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    Canadians laugh at people who carry on as you do.
     
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  4. HereWeGoAgain

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    Teachers are a a good group to monitor. They are pretty much guaranteed to be exposed. So we would expect teachers to die at the nominal rate of anyone who contracts the virus.
     
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    You’re beating your head against the wall expecting any sort of rational discussion with that individual. He can’t tell the difference between an actual quote and someone’s opinion of a quote.
     
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    If you want to get the virus and die in your house, thats your right. I believe people have a right to suicide.
     
  7. Ethereal

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    I agree.

    Let's also deny healthcare assistance to the fatties who stuff their faces with junk food every day.
     
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    and then...

    Wherever there are Leafs, there are Irony Rakes to walk into it seems.
     
  9. Ethereal

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    Still, it should be his choice. Either we're a free society or we're not. And if we're not, then we should just say so and stop lying to ourselves.
     
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    If they could convince themselves that those were mostly white males who don't vote Democrat, and that they didn't need to run dependency-misery-perpetual victimhood plantations based partly on ill-health related to poor diet to maintain power, that is -exactly- what they would do.
     
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  11. Ethereal

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    You should have to establish that you have antibodies for all viruses, not just COVID. If it saves one life, it is worth it. Also, we're all in this together. Now submit your blood sample to the local commissar, er, I mean, health official.
     
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    Are you ready to live in a dystopia where governments have total control over our lives? Because that's the world you're creating.
     
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    If our species were rational, it wouldn't need to be. But I defend the right of the irrational to be irrational, so long as they isolate themselves from everyone else and will refuse medical care if they get sick. I just wish such idiocy didn't require medical health professionals to abandon their oath. Instead, they will keep to their oath and continue to try to save the lives of those who were willingly ignorant.
     
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    You can't get away with this anymore. The data is available for everyone to see now.

    At least 99.5% of people who contract COVID survive.

    And the vast majority of those who do die from COVID were already extremely old, extremely sick, or some combination of two.

    Just as one example, the average age of those who died from COVID in Florida was 77 years [1].

    78.5 years is the average life expectancy in the USA.

    Given these numbers, there is simply no justification for your continued fear-mongering and hectoring.

    [1] - https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...f-coronavirus-deaths-are-people-65-and-older/
     
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    That's why people who actually care about the facts look at excess death numbers. If these were just people who would have died anyway, even without the disease, then death counts should fall in line with location-based average death counts over previous seasons. They don't. Instead, it looks like we are vastly undercounting the death toll of this disease. The factless "they would have died anyway" conspiracy theorists can't address the facts. They have to make up **** instead in order to justify their disregard for human life.
     
  16. Ethereal

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    Because the only "rational" choice is to get vaccinated against a virus that poses virtually no threat to 99% of the population?

    Why would that be necessary?

    Ignorant of what?
     
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    If you care about the lives of others and pay attention to how contagious the disease is, yes.

    Are you unaware of 1 of these factors or are you unaware of both?

    Why wouldn't it be? The alternative is to willingly put others in danger and then expect care if you catch a disease that you willingly refused preventative care for and which you were willing to put others at risk for.

    Of the germ theory of disease.
     
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    At least 99.5% of people who contract COVID survive. Nothing you just said changes that.

    The overwhelming majority of people who die from COVID are already extremely old, extremely sick, or some combination of the two. Nothing you just said changes that.

    And OF COURSE they are going to die anyway. Whether it's a few weeks or a few months from now makes hardly any difference in the grand scheme of things. Because most of them are already on the verge of death.

    Meanwhile, our wonderful society is RUINED because of your misguided and self-righteous crusade to artificially extend the lives of those who've already lived well into old age. You ghoulishly rob the young, the healthy, and the free of their precious time on this earth so that some bed-ridden Alzheimer's patient might get a few extra months of defecating on themselves inside a nursing home.

    And the even crazier thing? You can't even succeed in doing that. Because lockdown mavens like Cuomo ended up killing tons of people inside nursing homes by forcing them to accept COVID patients. On every level, your strategy has been a miserable and reprehensible failure.
     
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    The disease is contagious but non-lethal in at least 99.5% of cases. The large majority of cases are asymptomatic or mild. So why is vaccination the only "rational" choice? Are you unaware of the purpose of an immune system?

    Who are they putting in danger by not getting vaccinated?

    How are they ignorant of that?
     
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    Medicine in the west has turned into nothing more than a racket full of profiteers. The pharmaceutical companies are the worst. They peddle toxic garbage with dubious efficacy and make billions from their ruthless exploitation of intellectual property laws, which are probably most tyrannical and abused form of property rights in existence. We're being conditioned by these companies and their prostitutes in the media to believe that health is a simple matter of consuming some product: A pill, a shot, a cream. Anything they can profit from, they will. But there is no profit in simply telling people to exercise, eat right, sleep well, socialize regularly, and minimize their exposure to toxins. These practices, which could solve probably 90% of this country's chronic health epidemics, are either ignored, treated as afterthoughts, or outright ridiculed as some kind of unscientific hippy mentality.
     
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    So, you applaud Trump using his genius at trolling, to turn all things covid19, into cynical publicity stunts.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    You guys have been spreading misinformation nonstop from the very beginning.
     
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    This virus will never disappear. That's now how viruses work.
     
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    Except almost nobody is dying from the virus. The VAST majority of people who contract COVID survive. And those who do die from the virus were probably going to die anyway. Whether it's a few weeks or a few months from now is of no societal consequence.
     
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    Trump didn't do that, he did the best he could with the scammy MSM/Bureaucrat hand he was dealt.

    People are full aware and awake on whom is to blame for the COVID1984 Viral Moral Panic of 2020 among the crooked Soprano States, and it's not Trump or anything he did.
     
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