Nobody Hates Trump...

You make some good points. But, honestly, I'm at a complete loss to fathom how or why so many Americans have such loyalty to someone like Trump. It's bewildering. I keep wondering, is Trump the kind of person deserving of such loyalty? Personally, I don't see anything in Trump I find admirable. I don't hate him as a person. I just don't see him as a viable leader or as representative of my vision of America or Americans. And, I'm concerned for the damage he continues doing to American government institutions & the hopes, dreams & attitudes of Americans generally. He's a very dark, sinister force, who spreads distrust, suspicion, dishonesty, selfishness, disunity & a lethal disregard for the welfare of others, every day of his life. Why are so many Americans enthralled by him?

 

No I am just curious do you want a new war? do you want Unemployment not to be 3.5%?

Do you want to be forced to buy something you dont want?

 

Wow dude...I think you read my mind.
If there are more people out there thinking like that, we may survive after all.

 

The most appealing thing about Trump, for me, is how he drives Progressives crazy. Schadenfreude is not a very admirable feeling, but it is a vice I enjoy engaging in.

He is better than previous Presidents because he opposes globalization.

 

Such is the irrational hate from the left.

 

Wow dude you read my mind, some LWs thought they had a easy street and laughed when harry Reid used the nuclear option, they never thought it was going to come back and bite them in the butt.

That thought for sure Americans where going to elect Hillary and keep in tact Obama fundamentally changing America policy..

 

The only way I could give you a satisfactory answer to those
questions would be if I perceive things exactly as you do.
And perhaps, thankfully.. that is not the case.
You have your own unique way of thinking. I'm guessing not too many
folks understand your form of communication.

 

It’s simple really. He’s the lesser of evils. The
Democratic Party puts up a good candidate that represents America and Trump is toast. Sadly, the Democratic Party has forfeited the 2020 in favor of getting an even more radical candidate elected in 2024.

Trump is nothing new. President Obama was literally worshipped by a large segment of the country.

Why do you see Trump loyalty as being different? That’s what I don’t understand. I don’t like bowing the knee to anyone. Hell, concerts and other performances where humans are given undue adulation freak me out. But it’s a very common thing.

 

Because I believe this might be the most honest thing he's ever said....
“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, okay, and I wouldn’t lose any voters, okay? It’s, like, incredible.”
...and I believe he's right.

 

It is always better to resolve differences thru talking than fighting. Obama did with Cuba what Trump did with N Korea. He opened the door to dialogue, & nothing bad came from it. I hope the same results from Trump's efforts with N Korea.

Iran is a complex relationship. Actually, the Iranian people like America & Americans, but their leaders don't. They are angry toward America because in 1953, the CIA ousted a democratically elected government there & installed a puppet regime under the authoritarian rule of the Shah. America at the time, gave lip service to democracy, but betrayed their own message, & the Iranians became victims of that betrayal. I am very uncomfortable with the current Iranian Muslim government, but I understand their distrust. Trump supporters insult Obama for achieving an agreement with Iranian leaders to halt development of atomic weapons, just before his term of office ended. They claim the Iranians aren't to be trusted. Yet, everyone involved with enforcing that agreement, & inspecting sites to confirm adherence, agreed that the Iranians were in compliance when Trump suddenly & viciously pulled the U.S. out. Trump & his Republican supporters were concerned about trusting the Iranians, but it was the U.S. that twice broke its word--both in 1953, & again in 2017--NOT the Iranians. Trump will never be capable of seeing how his actions affect others--he's blind to that. But it's imperative that Trump supports do see it, & alter their support to benefit the country rather than the corrupt, self-serving man who thinks he runs it.

 

Thank you for posting honestly and from the heart, my ex girlfriend is an Iraian girl my sister in law is a Russian.


Both cool girls, it's not the people it's the government.


Btw I can tell you funny stories at how amazed they are about America

 

What would be the point of hating Trump?
Would we sleep better at night?
Would we get rich maybe?
Would we get better healthcare?
Maybe you just like to say those words
cause if you didn't say those words you'd
be invisible.

 

Driving Progressives crazy is a limited & limiting life goal. I hope you find something more exciting & more rewarding than that in your life.

Globalization, like many words, has many meanings--some positive, some negative. To me, the world is becoming ever more densely populated & more interconnected, which in itself forces us to have more to do with one another. The more "global" we become in our thinking, & the less tribal we become, the better our chances of seeing each other as equals in a crowded world, & partners rather than opponents. The more we can think in terms of cooperation rather than competition, the better our chances of working together in peace. So, to me, "globalization" isn't a negative term.

 

Not sure, ask the haters.

 

Cool
Now if we could just get you into that big chair in the oval office.

 

For me? Well, keep in mind he was my FOURTH choice. My first two choices(Rand Paul/Marco Rubio) eventually had to drop out of 2016. Both would make great Presidents and head of States. I had looked at Kasich's website and found him to be effective, but given my concern of government debt his record in Ohio left to be desired.

In spite of that, Trump said things that needed to be said(regardless of the flavor said about them). We cannot have a continual crisis at the border. We cannot have a growing influx of "refugee-citizens" and have an expanding number, and basically face the same dilemmas as China/Russia find themselves in with regards to population.

Worse yet, these "refugee-citizens" for one party, has taken the priority over its own domestic, legal US Citizens of the homeland.
Then homeland security completely collapsed under the Obama Administration. Terrorist attacks became a constant occurance, proving that whatever the Bush WH did after 9/11, it was working. Worse yet, the administration would never claim as such attacks. "Workplace violence". Then the absolutely slow growing economy.

All of those factors, including my grievances with the ACA led to me saying "Well, if it's Trump it's Trump." Hillary tried very late to sound serious on US defense, but it was far too late and she was a "Obama 3rd term."

Security is, well and should be the priority for a country/civilization to survive. Trump's rhetoric on defense won him the day. And by large, we've enjoyed successes. Yes, there's those neo-nazi scums, but I raise you an antiFA scum to counter. Trump signed an anti-semitism order(so much for a so-called alt right.). Other than those domestic skirmishes, which pail in comparison to the Dallas/NY horrors of 2016, promises made and kept on security.

And that's the secret undying issue: Electing a Democrat president, threatens to undermine security gains.

 

That's not as easy as you think...
the haters only exist in your head.
Like tryin to find a needle in a haystack

 

So you believe that statement to be accurate? You think he could shoot someone and not lose voters?

 

And that sentence neatly sums up why I find Progressives insufferable and delight in watching them take pratfalls. You asked what I find appealing about Trump. I tell you and suddenly my enjoyment of Progressive consternation becomes my life goal. And then you superciliously suggest I find something more rewarding.

But look what globalization has wrought: a hollowed out middle class and a loss of social cohesion. Globalization brought you Trump. And you wholeheartedly deserve him.

 

LOL, try DeNiro for one.

 

Putin?

 

Why submit to a whole busload of 100 crazy, stupid, corrupt people?

Seems like the exact wrong thing to do, to me.

 

No. Because Lefty is gonna keep crapping. We just don't have to let it stop us.

 

Yeah you don't hate him you just use his name as a substitute for crap. Your language puts the lie to what you say along with insipid assumptions.

 

Why does it concern you so, that corrupt institutions are being damaged?