Now it is official - Analytic Thinking Promotes Religious Disbelief

The big bang is about as provable as god. Just a theory we humans believe in. Hasn't really been proven, since it happened before we existed. We can only guess. And it's a good guess. Makes sense. Science has always revolved around us guessing, correcting ourselves and guessing again. And the great thing about god is, he exists as long as you believe. Those trying to disprove him are just wasting their time and those who don't believe or free to do so. You'd figure a scientist is smart enough to understand that proving or disproving god is pointless.

 

I think it's most likely an artifact of how we teach religion in America. We never teach the reasons for why we believe what we believe -- at least not beyond "it's in the Bible" and I think that's why people tend to believe less as they think about it. If you're never taught the reason that something is true beyond "this authority said so" people tend to think there is no reason behind it.

 

Genetically smarter? Are you sure you want to go there?

 

Physicists speculate all the time about forces outside of our universe. It's speculation about the supernatural.


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LOL

Really,... "proven."

Proofs can only be made in a specific discipline, like Geometry or Arithmetic, etc.

If you agree to accept the idea that division works, I can "prove" to you that 2 divided by 5 is .4.
It you agree with the axioms and postulates of Geometry, I can "prove" that two different triangles are congruent.

If you believe in Cause and Effect,i.e., Science, it can be "proven" that, some moment in time did exist when all the masses in the Cosmos were pin-pointed at one speific point on the graph of the Universe, i.e., a Singularity from which those parts have since exploded outwardly, i.e., The Big Bang.


As you say.
If you refuse to accept Science as the realm where I can "prove" stuff, then you got me on that.

 

God exists if we define "him" euphemistically as that source of the Reality we are all dealing with in this life experience.

The one almighty thing that we must accept if we are sane is the Facts of Life, the Reality we are trapped in, the conclusion that we must deal with the Reality that both confronts and nurtures us, until it deems we die.

 

Well America is watching the results of no believing the Bible in regard to Sexual Promiscuity as the Family Unit that has always built responsible citizens now has been destroyed by the Welfare and drive toward women raising kids without their fathers in the same household.








Statistics on Fatherlessness
CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS

It’s a Fact
Here’s why:

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).

90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.

85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.
(Source: Center for Disease Control).

80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source:
Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals Assoc. Report on the State of High Schools).

85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:

5 times more likely to commit suicide
32 times more likely to run away
20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
14 times more likely to commit rape
9 times more likely to drop out of high school
20 times more likely to end up in prison


Children from fatherless homes are*:

Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:

• 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
• 4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
• 6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
• 24.3 times more likely to run away
• 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
• 6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
• 10.8 times more likely to commit rape
• 6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
• 15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
• 73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes
• 6.3 times more likely to be in state operated institutions


Daughters who live in mother only homes are
92% more likely to divorce**

 

Welfare is now = the Military Budget

 

LOL show me a big bang right now. And showing that me a Dot of light is proof of the big bang, is about as valid as me saying god wrote the bible. The big bang is a theory. Science can be proven, but not all science is fact. The big bang is NOT a fact, yet. Prove to me god didn't cause the big bang? You can only guess that energy exploded as some point. You cant prove it exploded at an exact time in an exact place, just like you can't prove space is infinite. You can only guess through what little knowledge we have. B the way I believe in science and it makes far more sense than religion at times. But those who discount all religion yet believe all science are just hypocrites.

 

She did not say, Black boys whose fathers do not live with them as a family, together.

These boys are not reigned over by the authoritu of a father who pays for their support and who will be suffering for things these boys may do that cause problems.
These are crimials preying on the neighborhood surrounding them and their is no man in their life to oppose them.

Their father has a girl friend(s) over the years who these boys see as the way-of-life for a man who does not pay the bills for their mother.
The father if closely examined by these reporters, will be found to have a criminal record himself, especially in regard to his teenage years.
His work record will be spotty, even non-existence.
His role model is to live outside of cinventional society.

He is the Bad Example these boys see and emulate.

 

What a scientist would show you is a hand grenade which explodes under the natural conditions of maintaining a center of Momentum such that every piece of the original metal and its speed away from all the other pieces cancel one another out such as to pin point a single place of origin from which all the pieces have come from.

In other words, the observable (telescopic) Effect of each galaxy moving in the particular path and at the particular speed of the moment is Caused by the release of energy at some specific Singularity or point in the Universe.


Non-scientists can and do just discard this argument because it is merely based upon the premise that magic is impoosible and for every Effect there must be a Cause.
Non-science people often do believe in magic.
They think that things can happen that have no Cause at all.
They can NOT say an idea has been proven to them by science because they do not believe in Cause and Effect premises.

 

Having my own philosophy about religion that has nothing to do with any established religion I have to remind you that 50 years ago we thought that the Milky Way was the universe so we can see that even the elite thinkers are still learning.

It hardly takes a scientist to figure out that the least capable people would be more likely to look for spiritual help and want to be around like thinking people. Nor does it take a great thinker to see that the bottom feeders in the liberal horde with no moral fiber at all are worse for humanity than those who do believe that there must be a God and want to know that God in the best way that they can.

The liberal horde wants no moral restrictions at all so that they can practice their chosen perversion at will. The religious side sees that these perversion look attractive to the young and stupid and that a whole sale orgy cannot be good for any society.

Why the liberal perverts want to do back flips in their attempts to demean the religious people is beyond me. If there is no GOD then they can bend over, kneel down, hang upside down, lay with animals and vote for dems if they want. Why do they fear God more than the religious people do??

Serlak2007, what do you fear from religious people? Less perverts to play with? Not (*)(*)(*)(*)ation for sure. Do you expect this post to keep some person of the fence from falling out of perversion into the hands of religion and why would you care?

As I said I have no respect for any religion because they are, for the most part, the first money changers that deal in our most precious possession. God created the universe and man created religion as a way to understand our creator. I'm sure that there are a lot of good religious leaders out there but they have to fight to overcome the legacy of the really bad people that have used religion for their own gain.

The bottom line is that religion comforts people at all levels of our society and all levels of intellect so I don't make it my business to oppose it with believers.

 

Finally, I would like to assure my many Buddhist, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, and Muslim friends that I am sincerely happy that the religion which Chance has given you has contributed to your peace of mind (and often, as Western medical science now reluctantly admits, to your physical well-being). Perhaps it is better to be un-sane and happy, than sane and un-happy. But it is the best of all to be sane and happy. Whether our descendants can achieve that goal will be the greatest challenge of the future. Indeed, it may well decide whether we have any future.

Arthur C. Clarke
3001: The Final Odyssey (1997)

Does it really matter if you're happy?

 

When I was working I was the only publicly acknowledged atheist in the organization. I was considered a novelty by the fundamentalists. One came up and said, "I was talking to my minister about you and he explained why you're an atheist. He said you think too much." I put my pen down, looked at him, and said, "Think for a moment about what you just said." He thought for a moment and then said, "I don't want to," and hurried off. He never talked to me about religion again.

 

Damm it's tough to slip anything by you people.

 

This is inaccurate. Even those who believe in magic believe in cause and effect- they simply believe that the cause for magic is unobservable, only the effect is observable.

To the poster who says Einstein believed in God: Einstein clarified this, stating that it was Spinoza's god that he believed in, not God as we commonly use the word. But there are much better examples than Einstein. Newton believed in the God of the bible (and was a titan of analytical thought!), as did Max Planck, the legendary quantum physicist. With these other great men to use as examples, people really need to let go of Einstein.

 

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