NRA saved lives in Texas

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Robert, Nov 6, 2017.

  1. CourtJester

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    Because my plan was for federal registration. Now if you want to propose state registration that is up to you.
     
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    We have state registration. It's been used for confiscation. Why would we trust the Democrats at the federal level?
     
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    They did approve LEOSA at the Federal level and so far it works well.
    Perhaps it could work for everybody, not just LE.
     
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    Oddly enough, I know someone who knows someone who knows this 'barefoot hero.' No, I dont have any links or proof, so take it as you wish... Apparently hes not legally allowed to own the rifle he used to stop the shooter. Also, the shooter did not kill himself (if the MSM is still saying that...), he bled out. The Sherriff, as is typical in these 'small town' areas, went out on a limb for this guy and falsified the original reports to keep him out of trouble.
     
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    I have seen similar cases of otherwise law abiding but unlicensed people that might have gone to prison not for self defense, but for unlicensed possession and carry of a handgun, and a sympathetic Detective told their account in a way that spared the involved person a 5 year prison term.
     
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    In other words, don't bother you with facts when you've got your delusions. Understood.
     
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    you probably claim that smoking doesn't lead to lung cancer either. the fact is, registration does nothing good, and can be used for confiscation, so there is no reason to support registration

    and the funny thing is that all the anti gun posters always scream for registration. why do you think that is?
     
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    uh he's made it pretty clear he's all in favor of confiscation
     
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    Any semi auto with a detachable magazine that can be held in a way where the webbing between your thumb and forefinger is below the top of the trigger.
     
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    As long as we get to celebrate gun deaths in some fashion.
     
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    Oh, it was my opinion that you were content with your delusions and shouldn't be bothered with facts. But if you can come up with any instances of federal gun registration resulting on confiscation feel free to do so. Nobody has yet.
     
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    Must be something related to the gun death toll in America as a guess.
     
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    How silly of them not wanting to force evacuation on armed citizens after a disaster. Nothing like a bunch or armed people too stupid to evacuate before the storm being armed with guns. And how in the heck did anyone expect them to be able to rob and loot if they didn't have guns.

    But at least you are now recognizing that it was local officials and not federal or state officials that ordered the seisure. Also note that while some of the guns were lawfully owned there has been no evidence presented that gun registration information was used to target individual guns for confiscation.

    And note that even the NRA didn't say anything about the Federal government helping in the seizure. Apparently you just made that part up unless you think a few federal agents assigned to helping maintain order in a disaster Is the same as the federal government.
     
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    Federal agencies helped local police to confiscate the weapons.

    When you purchase a gun you fill out a ATF Form 4473 that is sent to the FBI for a background check. Here in California a copy is made and also sent to the California DOJ that keeps it on record.

    There was a time when local law enforcement also got a copy of the federal ATF Form 4473.

    The facts are guns were confiscated in New Orleans and they used federal records to locate those guns.
     
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    Holy various animals. That is strange to read this over the man that chased down the killer and shot him.
     
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    You can dishonestly move the goalposts all you want, but nobody's fooled. The original question was instances of registration leading to confiscation. Such examples were provided and suddenly you want to talk about FEDERAL gun registration resulting in confiscation. Well, since registration at the local and state level has resulted in confiscation we have no good reason to think that Federal registration will result in anything different.

    You are twisting facts, and exposing your totalitarian, authoritarian philosophy. The confiscation happened AFTER the storm had passed, and were not about forcing people to evacuate, but about the government stripping honest people of their firearms because they couldn't control the situation. There were people who had not evacuated for legitimate reasons and were in places where flooding was not expected to rise high enough to be a risk to them. Those who had stayed behind, and found themselves in a city where infrastructure had collapsed, who had no means to call 911, who had only their own supplies to live upon and their own weapons to defend it and had faced gangs of looters...were suddenly faced by uniformed thugs violating their oaths to the Constitution to strip them of their only means of self-defense and security. And you sneer at them and state you have no problem with governmental troops FORCING American citizens, by the use of arms, to comply with arbitrary decree to surrender their means of self-defense. As such, you reveal a contempt for the Constitution and the rights of your fellow Americans that is nothing short of appalling to me.
     
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    If we ever have force registration at the federal level, it will be imposed by the same people who imposed it at the state level and moved on to federal office. There is no reason to trust them at any level of government.
     
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    only the stupid ones. the leaders of the ban movement only pretend its about saving lives. Its why almost every gun banner is a left winger. its about harassing those perceived as voting against liberals.
     
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    Instead of actually dealing with the discussion all you can do is try the gun banning nonsense. Nobody except the paranoiacs believe there is any real interest in banning guns.
     
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    You are being dishonest because you obviously can't find any evidence that the confiscation in New Orleans had anything to do with gun registration.
     
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    So what happened in Puerto Rico?
     
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    That stupid example has already been discussed. Hint: Puerto Rico isn't a state. Also there is no evidence that gun registration had any role in the gun seizures?

    So far not one example of gun registration leading to gun seizures has been presented.
     
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    But it is US territory and confiscation based upon was registration was contemplated. Just saying. The libs would do it if the could but they know the consequences.
     
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    No evidence that anyone has been able to present that confiscation based on registration was contemplated. The actual order certainly says nothing of the kind.

    And no we libs wouldn't since we own guns too. Why do you guys when you can't actuslly find evidence to support your silly claims resort to trying to make it a poluticsl issue?
     
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    But there is evidence that it was contemplated and an order drafted. And most libs don't own guns and certainly not to the quality and degree the conservatives do.
     

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