Nuclear Deal Reached With Iran

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    It wasnt war he wanted to declare
     
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    Get real. Iraq has been destroyed over nothing. Afghanistan has been bombed for a decade to get rid of the Taliban,... which has nothing to do with Al Qaida and 911,... so it's over nothing (but attempt to steal their natural resources). Nobody is going to believe an attack on Iran would be just some bombs with some home before Christmas message. That is just stupid to suggest that even.
     
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    Dropping bombs is war.... Simple...
     
  4. AmericanNationalist

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    Actually, bowing is customary in Japan. It'd be offensive if Obama didn't bow(alas though, as many hilariously pointed out he didn't do so correctly). It's a matter of mannerism.

    So at least in the case of Japan, you should give our president a pass.

    And in this case, I applaud the president's foreign policy. The Zionists always thought that by throwing money, intimidation and tactics that it could control the American State and make it its attack dog. For the first time in several decades, the president has reclaimed our national authority.

    Now how strongly can the President act in our interests and our authority will go a long way towards restoring his legacy. Though his domestic policies are an epic fail and though his conducting of war is just as unethical, his reclaiming our authority pushes him away from Carter territory and more towards the 'average' which lately means, he isn't any worse than the other guy.

    This one single act, the act of restoring American Dignity and the knowledge that the Homeland acts on its own accord, has saved him from in my mind at least falling to the pits of historical approval.
     
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    jimmy Carter only negotiated away the Panama Canal and is reviled for doing so.

    Hussein Obama negotiated away nuclear weapons and got no more than Chamberlain got at Munich.
     
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    I haven't read the documents on the Panama Canal agreement.
     
  7. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No American president ever bowed to anyone, and I should give Obama a pass? Gimmi a break.

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    Is that a fact? :)
     
  8. Taxcutter

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    "I haven't read the documents on the Panama Canal agreement"

    Taxcutter says:
    Maybe you should.
     
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    Abject nonsense, AQ was part and parcel of the Taliban government, they formed an AQ Taliban brigade known as the 055 Brigade and had a seat on the Taliban's ministry of defense, Bin Ladens Daughter was married to Omar's son, and the Taliban allowed AQ to use Afghanistan as a base of operations, training center, and headquarters from which to launch attacks against the west including 9-11.

    What natural resources does Afghanistan have?
     
  10. RP12

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    Quite a bit ~
     
  11. Margot2

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    Here it is.

    Convention for the Construction of a Ship Canal (Hay-Bunau-Varilla Treaty), November 18, 1903

    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/pan001.asp
     
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    The president didn't "negotiate" away nuclear weapons. Do you see our stockpile dropping? A weapons program hadn't even been confirmed, it normally would be a non-issue. The fact that it was an "issue" enough for the P5 powers, is proof of Zionist's hegemony over Western Nations.

    North Korea has a CONFIRMED stockpile of weapons, why aren't we addressing that? Could it be possible that the Zionists have no fear/interest in North Korea? Of course.

    Well, guess what? We do! A nation that has actually threatened to bomb us is of much more serious concern than little Iran. It's also threatened Japan and our other Asian allies across the region.
     
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    Afghanistan has a trillion of dollars in resources.. and when we are gone, China will still be their neighbor..

    That's why China is building railroads and mining operations in Afghanistan.

    U.S. defense officials estimated in 2010 that there could be as much as $1 trillion worth of iron, copper, cobalt, gold and lithium in Afghanistan.

    A 2007 survey found an estimated 1.5 million metric tons of potential rare earth resources in southern Afghanistan. The international community gets more than 95 percent of its rare earth minerals from China.

    Afghan officials said production of iron ore deposits in Bamyan province could begin in 2015.


    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/En...l-resources/UPI-32781342616601/#ixzz2lZyEccqU

    Americans in the ME have known about this since the 1960s..

    Balochistan is even richer in resources.
     
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    I agree, the American pro-Israel lobby is acting according to their own interests (at least as they see them). The evangelicals in particular are pretty creepy and scary. Apparently they believe that Jews returning to Israel will lead to a world war that will prompt the second coming of christ and the final battle between Good and Evil and the end of the world, etc, etc, etc. Of course, any Jews who refuse to accept christ after the second coming will be destroyed in the war and condemned to hellfire, etc... That strikes me as trying to use the entire nation of Israel as a blood sacrifice in some obscene ritual to bring about the end of the world. These are not rational people. Personally, if I were an Israeli, I would not think of those Evangelicals as my friends.

    I understand that there's a lot more at issue then just land, and I'm not suggesting that peace will instantly break out if the settlements are frozen. But I think there's no chance of a deal so long as settlements are being built. I appreciate that Israel has its own politics, and the actions of any particular government do not necessarily reflect what the majority of the people want.

    Godwin's rule: spurious comparisons to the Nazis constitute a concession of the argument. You lose.

    Oh yes, how horrible that an American President would actually treat other countries or cultures with courtesy and respect. We can't have that, next thing you know people will be suggesting that the US doesn't have the right to tell the rest of the world how to run their countries.

    Tell me, just how tiny are you? Cause your insecurities seem to be really massive.
     
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    Do you understand the conditions in France and the UK at the time and why they didn't want to go to war?

    I posted information earlier.
     
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    They got war anyway.
     
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    American diplomatic protocols dictate American president to bow to no-one. Keep spinning, apologizing, whatever else you need to do to feel good about America's first affirmative action president.
     
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    The United States conducted foreign and economic policies that bred resentment throughout the Middle East for nearly three quarters of a century.

    As dispicable as 9/11 was, it did not occurr in a vacuum.
     
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    No. that is nonsense. The Taliban government was even willing to pick up Bin Laden and put him on trial. Al Qaida and the Taliban are 2 completely separate groups.

    I'm not answering stupid questions, just because you ask them.

    It's real obvious the US installed a puppet so Afghanistan would be drained from their resources cheaply. Just like they did with installing the Sha of Iran. But they refuse to learn. The sha of Iran puppet was a fail, the Afghan terror campaign was a fail, and Iraq is a fail.
     
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    You already conceded the point, so shut up and go away or learn to make an argument without invoking Hitler over every little thing you don't like.

    First, source that claim. Second, why? Why shouldn't the President bow? Should the President shake hands? Or maybe you want people to prostrate themselves before the President and kiss his shoes?

    What sort of pathetic person is afraid of being polite? Honestly, do you need a magnifying glass to fap?
     
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    You are absolutely correct it occurred in line with over 1,000 years of Islamic imperialist expansionism based on slaughter, ethnic cleansing, and genocide since the pedophile false prophet Mohammad slaughtered and enslaved all Jewish tribes in Saudi Arabia and waged unprovoked war against Christendom. It is not US foreign policy that caused 9-11 but rather the foreign policy of the Ummmah.
     
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    You don't have a *******n clue what you're talking about once again AQ was part and parcel of the Taliban government forming the 055 brigades and having a seat on the Talibans ministry of defense. Furthermore; the offer of a kangaroo court that would have found Bin Laden innocent is laughable to say the least.

    You're not answering the question because you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing can't.

    What resources? They were the poorest country on the planet at the time of the US liberation. But its lovely to see your overt support for one of the most despotic and oppressive regimes the world has ever seen.

    [​IMG]

    Truly disgusting.
     
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    And which American firms are stealing them exactly?

    So the US invaded Afghanistan for China? :roll:

    LMFAO rare earth elements aren't rare. :roll:

    Despite their name, rare earth elements (with the exception of the radioactive promethium) are relatively plentiful in the Earth's crust, with cerium being the 25th most abundant element at 68 parts per million (similar to copper).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_earth_element#Global_rare_earth_production

    The US alone has 13 million tons of proven reserves.
     
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    LMFAO rare earth elements aren't rare. :roll:

    Despite their name, rare earth elements (with the exception of the radioactive promethium) are relatively plentiful in the Earth's crust, with cerium being the 25th most abundant element at 68 parts per million (similar to copper).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_earth_element#Global_rare_earth_production

    The US alone has 13 million tons of proven reserves.[/QUOTE]

    Invaded for China? LOLOL.. No.. China just gets better results using the old American plan than the arm twisting plan of the Brits.
     
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