NZ Shooter: Trump is a "symbol of white supremacy"

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  1. Mushroom

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    Uh-huh.

    Care to comment about Jesse Jackson, who had an affair with a staffer? The staffer who took a $15,000 payment from his Rainbow Push organization, and $21,000 for "contracting work"? Who was offered an additional $40,000, which was rescinded once the child became known to the public?

    Seems the Democrats lack "family values" also. And this from a minister, tsk-tsk-tsk.

    Or his son, Jesse Jr. Former Congressman from Illinois, who was convicted of 2 counts of wire and mail fraud (for using campaign funds for personal purchases - over $750,000) and sentenced to 30 months in Federal Prison.

    On top of that, they come from a family of preachers!

    You see, that is the difference. I blame individuals as individuals, I do not try to blame everybody else for their actions.
     
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    I don't understand why right-wingers jump into conversations without first finding out what is being discussed. I'm talking about the fact that this nut wrote in his manifesto that Trump was an inspiration for his acts. Trump refused to distance himself from this in a clear and unequivocal way. Not only as any decent human being would do. But especially as one would expect from the President of the United States. One would only expect such a lukewarm response (if we could even call it a response) from somebody who actually doesn't mind being an inspiration for these acts.
     
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    They were very definitely shunted aside. Cheney and Rumsfeld wouldn't listen to them at all, and used them as front men in their campaign to start their war. Powell got really disgusted, quit and endorsed Barack Obama. Rice wound up in academe.

    Steele was given the RNC job because the Democrats has a black man in the White House. They ignored and marginalized him too.

    You say that my charge against Carson is false. Based on what? Oh, you made it up.

    It was no secret that the only campaign that was an even bigger joke than the Trump entourage was Carson's occasional act at running for President. In fact, he relied very heavily on direct mail fundraising outfits, the ones who are usually dunning evangelicals for donations to televangelists (it is the same audience, after all!). Most of the money went into the pockets of the consultants, and not into the campaign. As a result, even though Carson regularly toted up large contributions hauls, he had an almost constant cash flow. Of course, Carson "suspended" his campaign while he went around on a book tour too.
     
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    "Care to comment about Jesse Jackson, who had an affair with a staffer?"

    Sure!

    Newt Gingrich did that......twice!

    And he sold a Speaker's Gavel to the owner of a Dallas strip club too!
     
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    I don't care about who started with it one bit. It's the part the white nationalists seem to have a tendency to claim that rhetoric of the current US president -not exactly a nobody- supports their violent racist ways.
     
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    Democrats attract a frightening number of followers and the are largely true believers.

    When one displays this man, he lacks the millions of followers that the dreadful Democrats attract.

    Look at the deep fighting among citizens today. is it Richard Spencer or the Democrats?

    Who follows the Antifa quite loyally? The Democrats support them. Who shows up armed and in black suits and with faces covered? It is Democrats. They do not run down Antifa.

    Spencer clearly is not armed and he is not wearing a suit to wage war in. A black suit will follow.

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    I am claiming he never sent his sympathy specifically to the group who got targeted. And with that I am right.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The killer driving the Dodge Challenger that killed the woman was half a mile from the group protecting the statue.

    Heather was killed here.

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    This is the site of the statues

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    Can you spot the difference?
     
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    Presidents contact the state, not the church.
     
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    So you don’t actually care about solving the problem then? If it’s not Trump it will be somebody else because this imo is a reaction to immigration policies.
     
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    This character assassination didn’t work in 2016 but I’m sure it’ll work better in 2020. If your the DNC it’s probably easier to attack Trump personally than face the reality that their policies were so unattractive that people would rather vote Trump.
     
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    If he would have personally reached out to those people they would say Trump is insensitive to them in their time of mourning
     
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    Notice the utter hate and disgust for whites expressed by Democrats. Never do they do this to Antifa or to other Democrats. We take the heat in their view over things done while trying to save a statue for instance. But our own laws favor human freedom while they favor restrictions galore.

    Do you notice any Democrats using such terminology when it comes to blacks? And who riots a lot? Who is it that Democrats plead with us are locked in jails? They never at any time complain that whites are locked up, only that blacks are locked up.
     
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    I know it’s a basic analogy so take from it what you will but say the government knocks on your door and says “hey we’ve got 3 immigrants here they’re gonna live in your front lawn now”. I think most people regardless of race would be at least slightly perturbed by that idea. That’s where these governments need to do a better job integrating these immigrants because immigration policies are helping fuel an us vs them mentality (see the rise of nationalism prior to Trump). All of this isn’t Trumps fault and it’s not the citizens fault it’s their governments fault for improperly implementing their strategies on migrants from middle eastern countries specifically.
     
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    There is merit to your statement. Would you say the same to a black person?
     
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    That's the indeed issue...
     
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    So what. Currently Trump is it. And he's not your random person who inspires right wing terrorists, but the president of the US. So "credit" is due where credit is due.
     
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    Didn't work when Democrats did it in 2016. I have a feeling it might work now that he's doing it to himself, though.
     
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    He’s been doing it to himself since before the election though. Dems need to bring forth a clear and consistent message on where they stand policy wise.
     
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    Replacing Trump is at best a temporary band aid to the larger issue.
     
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    I don't disagree.
     
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    Lo I was a loyal Democrat until 1980 but one of the disgusting things about the Democrats is they character assassinate. And do so happily.

    Trump has the Democrats acting like african bees. This does them a lot of damage.
     
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    Democrats are well known to attack republicans and it is not the republican it is always republicans. All of them attack all republicans.

    This is not recent as well. It happened to a republican and this is proof.

     
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    Please do. The more the Dems bring forth their clear and consistent message on policy, the deeper they dig their political graves.
     
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