Obama acted before pandemic declared

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  1. Robert E Allen

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    You don't know the truth on order to deliver it.

    You guys are trying to get people to panic.

    It's working! Go try to buy a pound of hamburger or any chicken or rice or flour or sugar...

    Job well done bad guys.
     
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    Apparently, everything.
     
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    What did Obama do since you liberals are blaming Trump
     
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    No matter what Trump does you democrats and hate Trumpers will fins fault and spew lies about Trump while you falsely praise incompetent Obama
     
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    This is the truth...
     
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    Funny how you ignore the amount of people hospitalized and the number of deaths when talking about Obama. During Obama the media protected Obama and did very little reporting on it. They were the opposite of what they are now. Showing the double standard and hypocrisy of the democrat run liberal media
     
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    It is democrats and the liberal media that are spewing lies
     
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    The only ones spewing lies are the democrat run liberal media and the democrats. Trump is telling what his health departments have told him
     
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    Yeah. Like those verified lies that came out of Trumps mouth when he was “addressing the nation” on the pandemic ?


    Clean your own house, then you can come to mine ;)
     
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    Show the lies
     
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    Like all the Truth associated with that Russian Collusion and the
    Mueller tribunal.Earlier last week there was credible story that
    Mueller Knew in 2017 that it was all manufactured.
    But regardless,went ahead full steam.
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    Which lies?
     
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    Trump started taking action on January 31. Do the math and show your work just like they told you in grade school.
     
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    The first confirmed case of H1N1 in the US was on 28 March 09. A public health emergency was declared 26 April. By the end of May there were 25,000+ confirmed cases across all 50 states.

    The first confirmed case of Coronavirus in the US was 19 Jan 2020. HHS declared a public health emergency on 31 Jan 2020. 5 days shy of that '2 mo mark', there are 2,952 confirmed corona cases in US.

    I do not understand the basis of your panic or your vitriol.


    Can we wait for presidential comparisons until the matter is concluded?

    He who answers the matter before it is heard is a fool.
     
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    The only part this gets right is that the country didn't lose it's collective minds. Why not you ask? Because President Obama addressed the nation when the number of cases globally could be literally counted on your fingers and toes. During this address less than 3 weeks after the first case anywhere in the world he announced a national health emergency which allowed congress to appropriate emergency funding which they did. Included in that funding was tests for the H1N1 flu that were developed two days after the first case was identified. During that address he also calmed fears by not minimizing the danger ahead but made a call for people to become vigilant and to follow the rules of frequent hand washing, sneezing into your sleeve, not shaking hands and staying home when you are sick. People who believe that they can participate in protecting themselves feel empowered and don't panic. It's the unknown and confusion that causes a sense of helplessness and panic. Another key factor, he didn't tell the population about his efforts, he talked about the team of doctors and scientists working on the problem. A good leader doesn't pat himself on the back because that leads to mistrust and resentment.
    OK, the number of hospitalizations and infections are in the ballpark but not the deaths.

    That October, 6 months after patient zero, a vaccine was developed and then Obama declared a national emergency which, unlike a national health emergency, allowed for a suspension of rules and allowed for a rapid deployment of the vaccine. By December it became available to all and he himself got vaccinated on television as an example to follow.

    In the end, the number of deaths were on a par with any flu. There was little panic buying anywhere and life went on pretty much normally. It all came down to transparency, steady, single minded leadership and a populace with a common goal.
     
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    President Trump and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force Meeting with Pharmaceutical Executives....March 3, 2020

    GLOBAL ALERT Coronavirus outbreak declared a pandemic by WHO – after ‘alarming spread and severity of cases’ in 114 countries...11 Mar 2020

    :roflol:

    Look at the dates.
     
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    Because he has the FACTS to back that up. Even Fox News called him out on these lies.
     
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    No. He said they were banning “ALL Travel from Europe”. When they actually weren’t at the time. They LATER changed it to cover the UK.
     
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    It didn’t at the time. You must be getting your news from the original “Fake News”....Fox
     
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    Now that's an exaggeration.



    Sometimes when it's open he's eating.
     
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    Good grief, that's not a lie. Not every inaccuracy is a lie.
     
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    Obama and Biden allowed 12k people to die, did nothing...then allowed a deadly Ebola virus to run for three years. Voting for Biden is a vote for death
     
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