Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns

You can rant and rave all you like, the fact is our military, for the most part, takes their oath to the Constitution seriously, the Second Amendment in particular, and they are not going to violate that oath because some community organizer from Chicago tells them to.

 

Shows how much you know.

 

Every attack on our rights is a bit worse than the last and every one adds to the anger that is on low simmer...all it needs is a triggering event. A gun grab by 'executive order' could well be that trigger. A series of bloody shootouts with law abiding citizens would most assuredly trigger more resistence. Police refusal to support the new schemes might also trip the situation back into the realm of the Constitution.

 

Then you are an ignoramus of the highest order.

 

Then they came after me and there was no one left.....

 

It's just further proof that the man is incapable of working with Congress, including his own party, to achieve consensus on laws governing Americans. Recess appointments, use of executive power, signing statements, 100% adversarial position with the 'other' party, my way or the highway attitude, proclaiming he has a mandate instead of reasoning with Congress...all signs of a failure to approach Congress, work with Congress, do what's in the best interest of the USA...and we've got four more years of this...

 

The IRS with their stockpile of guns and ammo???

 

Individuals who shared Obama's vision would likely follow the order, but they are mostly spineless, so there's not much to worry about.

 

Would they bring their pocket protectors and paper weights to the raid?

 

Soldiers take an oath upon enlistment. "I solemnly swear that I will preserve and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign, and domestic." Not only that, but the have the right, indeed the DUTY to refuse to follow unlawful orders. An order to go door to door violates at LEAST two provisions of the Constitution, and it would be a soldiers sworn, solemn DUTY to refuse to comply.

Any President who would attempt such a thing is not only acting against HIS oath of office (which uses the same language), he is causing a constitutional crisis, and quite likely, a civil war. For he has declared himself a domestic enemy of the Constitution.

 

We already know where the military's support lies:

 

Guess you haven't heard about that. Seems a lot of government agencies are buying up lots of guns and ammo to the tune of about 1.5 Billion for DHS with hollow point bullets that is not even allowed through the Geneva Convention.

DHS
IRS
SSA

Top down.

 

If Barack Obama and the Marxist/Democratic Party attempt to "grab guns"... it will be the end of their party. The people will turn on them in such mass that only the DailyKos/MSNBC rejects will be left on their side.

 

Yeah it's a gonna be a holocaust like the Civil War ... all because of a lunatic who blamed his mom and kindergartners on his defective state-of-bieng and got ahold of her military-grade for civilian-use hardware entitled to her by the 2nd Amendment and enforced by the NRA ...

 

"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary....."

 

Against ALL enemies. Foreign AND domestic.

 

It's so easy to get reactions from the loony gun lovers, one doesn't even have to be a troll to do so.

 

I want Obama and his boy Biden to come to my door with no secret service. Matter of fact he can bring a few of them secretaries with them. If they can whip my 270 pound ass they can have the guns but I guarantee both of their asses will be knocked out of the fight first.

 

Somewhere I read there are 270 million firearms in the USA, or about 88.8 firearms per 100 people. Now this number is what's known and does not include millions more guns that are in society. No one is going to take away 270-300 million firearms...any talk of this is just over-reacting.

And people need to watch Obama closely on this because once the government starts profiling people who are 'deemed' a risk to own a gun, no matter the reason, this is basically allowing the government into the lives of every adult citizen where government will decide if a person is 'okay' or not. It's an expansion of government which is unnecessary. Someone needs to define the root problem Obama is trying to solve? Obama said 'he was not going to allow the Newtown incident to happen again' and this cannot be a root problem because it is impossible to stop these types of mass-killing incidents.

And how about some perspective on this? Obama and government and Americans allow 35,000 people, including lots of kids, to be killed every single year from traffic accidents. It seems logical to me if we truly cared about innocent people dying, government would focus on the 35,000 instead of the 35. I'm not dismissing what happened at Newtown; just saying or asking what is the 'real' reason for all of this gun control talk?

 

Where in hell did I ever say that. Please point to the statement where I called you a conservative.

 

Me ? Oh hell no .... I sold my shotgun and ruger 10/22 several months after the Tucson massacre ... I actually believed the right-wing revolution had begun just like right-wingers believed ... so I figured when the right-wing zombies came to get me I'd be better off as *neutral* ....

As it turns out you did nothing like a buncha pansies ... no, mass-murderers are the ones out there killing men, women and children to *get things going * ...

 

Yeah, except people that are trying to bring civility back into the country are not the enemy. You're confused.

 

What will happen is Obama will release his enforcer Eric Holder to engage in a private war against percieved white supremecist groups or percieved religioud cults on the grounds of gun control. Maybe try to find some white religious ppl to persecute with the ATF. Maybe some mormon sect, liberals love to harass them.

There will be a gunfight caught on drone camera complete with government APC's tanks, helicopters and body bags of dead agents and backwoods civilians.

It will be on world tv and the outrage of the bungling government excesses enacted against Americans percieved to be rather innocent to justify the massive use of paramilitary force will bring huge embarrassment on the Obama administration.

I promise everyone reading this thread, there wil be blood, and Obama will pay politcally for it.