Obama is a Walking Contradiction

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  1. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Its a human sperm cell, but not A HUMAN. However, seeing lifers insist that a fetus is human, anything else human must also be protected from destruction.
     
  2. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Why is some scientific classification relevant? We all know a zygote is a developmental stage of every human being!
     
  3. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    You haven't grasped the concept that a fetus is a Human organism, a tumor is not, nor is a sperm cell!
     
  4. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    what is an organism and who defined it?
     
  5. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Look it up!
     
  6. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    Still can not support anything you say eh?
     
  7. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    It amazes me that someone could use the forum, but is incapable of Googling a word. :no:
     
  8. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    It has nothing to do with googling. It has everything to do with your desperate avoidance of the definition that does not support your assertion.
     
  9. Pasithea

    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Not to mention it is up to the people making the assertions to post their evidence, not force everyone else to go looking it up for them. =/
     
  10. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Well of course it does. You ask what a definition is when the web is full of dictionaries, oh that's right dictionary definitions are all wrong! :roll:
     
  11. Whaler17

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    Well she/he asked fort a definition. That is something he/she can easily look up.
     
  12. Meta777

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    What is the difference between a human sperm cell and a human zygote,
    that makes one human and the other not human?

    -Meta
     
  13. Whaler17

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    One is developmental stage of a human being, the other is not !
     
  14. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    Both are part of the human cycle of life.
    If you mean to say that a zygote has the ability to metabolize and grow on its own,
    well then why should that determine what is and what isn't human?
    What is your definition of human?
    What is your definition of human being?

    In truth, a zygote cannot grow by itself any more than a sperm or egg can grow on its own.
    Apart from its host, would a zygote still be considered human,
    if so, then why when it would no longer have the ability to grow without some sort of assistance?

    The sperm is merely a part of the zygote,
    it develops into a zygote with the help of the egg,
    just as the zygote develops into an embryo with the help of nourishment from the host.

    -Meta
     
  15. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What we all know is that a developmental stage of a human does not a human make.

    Why is some scientific classification relevent you ask ?

    For one, it is more relevent than the opinion of someone that starts sentences off with the logical fallacy "We all know"
     
  16. Whaler17

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    EEEEEHHHHHHHHH!!!! WRONG!!!!!!

    A sperm is not a developmental stage of a human being, a zygote is. Glaring difference.
     
  17. Whaler17

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    This sentence does not even make sense.
     
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    A developmental stage is not a human.
     
  19. Whaler17

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    A developmental stage of a human being is not a human being? REally? Who knew an infant, a toddler, an adolescent all are not human beings. :roll:
     
  20. prometeus

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    yea really. Infant, toddlers and so on ALL have organs with which they sustain their own life functions, you know all all human beings. You did know that human being need and have organs to sustain their lives, didn't you?
     
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    A developmental stage in of itself is not a human being. The organism that is in a particular developmental stage might be !

    Infants, toddler's and adolescents are all human beings but a zygote is not.
     
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    Please explain to me how that is wrong.
    Are you saying that sperm is not necessary for a zygote to be created,
    an embryo, a fully formed baby, an adult?
    How is sperm not part of that cycle?

    Both are part of the human cycle of life.
    If you mean to say that a zygote has the ability to metabolize and grow on its own,
    well then why should that determine what is and what isn't human?
    What is your definition of human?
    What is your definition of human being?

    In truth, a zygote cannot grow by itself any more than a sperm or egg can grow on its own.
    Apart from its host, would a zygote still be considered human,
    if so, then why when it would no longer have the ability to grow without some sort of assistance?

    The sperm is merely a part of the zygote,
    it develops into a zygote with the help of the egg,
    just as the zygote develops into an embryo with the help of nourishment from the host.

    -Meta
     
  23. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that one makes no sense either!
     
  24. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Do they now, even when they are first created?
     
  25. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    You failed to excplain why. They are all developmental stages.
     

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