The poor Harvard professors who were shocked and angry over Obamacare's influence on their health insurance costs prove that 'educated' and 'intelligent' are not mutually inclusive. - - - Updated - - - Democracy doesn't work with an educated citizenry.
The history of the US public schools is very interesting.. and came about because huge numbers were immigrating to America.. It was thought that if they learned to speak write and speak English and received a basic education, they would participate in our system and be better citizens.
Systemic vote buying schemes ruined any hope for "better citizens". Humans, regardless of "education", are internally governed by the path of least resistance/risks to rewards. When central planners intercede to manipulate that construct for votes, it's impossible to get "better citizens"... no, what you get is more and more DEMANDING citizens...more and more citizens who've been incrementally conditioned to believe they're ENTITLED to other people funded benefits. You get 18 trillion dollar national debts. You get contemptuous polarization between coerced net benefactors and net beneficiaries.
We are talking about an informed citizenry... who could read and write and understand the issues. Read up on the history of US public education .. Democracy is just messy, but it does work pretty well.
First lets stop calling it " free " . Second , A lot of our poor and lower class can already attend college relatively free ( at least 2 year college) and they already (*)(*)(*)(*) it up and abuse it. I would be surprised if more than 2 % of our population uses this to actually complete a degree. After all the barrier is usually not financial but work ethic. This bill would not change work ethic. - - - Updated - - - A lot of our lower class already have access to programs that make college pretty much " free" . So few take advantage of it. This bill wont teach worth ethic. - - - Updated - - - I would say " balanced citizenry" would be much more accurate. If we all had B.S. degree who would clean the toilets?
higher education is not a right, it's a privilege earned through hard work and work ethic. a High school diploma (only) is worthless nowadays.... nothing will ruin the value of an AA degree or an AS degree quicker than making it possible for EVERYONE to get one by showing up.
The The US spends more money on a per-pupil basis than the rest of the First World.... yet, a narcissistic sociopath and pathological liar blessed with a talent for delivering empty, teleprompted platitudes with soaring urgency and emotion was elected. Twice. so.... what, exactly, has all this "education" actually delivered? and intelligent, "informed" citizenry? or a conditioned, indoctrinated citizenry?
Prez said it would be for C average students. Actually, I disagree with this prerequisite. I think many HS kids do poorly in HS and flourish in college. Sometimes maturity and environmental factors change and allow the young students to become better students.
I disagree that college educatino should be free for two years. Technically, nothing is free. Primary and secondary education is primarily supported by tax dollars, local or state or both. However, post secondary education have its resources ranging from scholarships, grants, and loans. All of these programs require the student to maintain a specific grand point average. Yes, education should be a priority, but you cannot realize that mindset if you make it free. You realize that mindset by offering as much choice as possible so that the parents and studnet can make the choice based on their specific circumstances. Furthermore, the priority should be the persona and cultural icon of our country, not some form of business enterprise to make money.
Those fields are very much part of the two-year college curriculum, and the credits transfer, so I'm not sure I agree. I'm speaking only from experience at my local community college, where those programs are very popular.
awesome new high growth industry, working for a community college more good paying with good benefits, taxpayer funded jobs
Absolutely true, which probably makes the case for this program. I knew HS students who were in such a poor learning environment that in didn't matter how smart or dedicated they were to school. This is a virtual extension of HS, which may be necessary for many reasons, not the least of which is tough public schools in the cities. - - - Updated - - - It isn't an either/or proposition, but I understand your point.
a pathetic ploy to try and win back some of the youth vote the Democrats have been hemorrhaging since 2008 Six years ago, voters aged 18 to 29 favored Barack Obama over his Republican opponent, Senator John McCain, by a ratio of two to one and justified Time’s announcement that 2008 was “The Year of the Youth Vote.” Two years previously, in midterm races for the House, the same demographic went for Democrats 60 percent to 38 percent. In 2012, President Obama’s advantage slipped, but under-30 voters still gave him a 23-point edge, 60 percent to 37 percent. No wonder this year the president appeared two days before the election at Temple University, where he exhorted the crowd, “So I need all of you to go grab your friends, grab your classmates... I need you to vote.” But it turned out that 2012 was no anomaly. Turnout for young voters this year was around 21 percent, typical for midterms, but the breakdown was disappointing for the left: Exit poll data show that young voters backed House Democrats 54 percent to 43 percent, half the advantage of 2006 and two percentage points lower than in 2010. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/12/opinion/are-democrats-losing-the-youth-vote.html?_r=0 But I guessDemocrats figure borrowing a few more billion from China so the 2 year grads can bag groceries fro 29 hours a week alongside the 4 year grads is worth it
and I think the GPA requirement should be higher. too many times it seems they just do enough to get by. this low requirement would not discourage them from skating along even into the college years. Make it so they put skin in the game instead of ripping us off for another 2 years.
I'm certain that it includes technical fields since the speech will be near the campus of Pellissippi State Technical Community College in the Tennessee Technology Corridor.
Does an infiltrated, systematically corrupted Fourth Estate marginalize or negate "education"? Do their "informing" lies, criminally biased bullhorns and strategic omissions supercede an "educated" citizenry's influence on the direction of a nation? something to ponder....
Have you seen the percentage of the total U.S. student loan debt held by the federal government? We're already paying for it. I went to a private Catholic university, where over 90% of tuition was paid by student loans and grants. Very few parents are "making choices based on specific circumstances." That is only for the wealthy elite and the highly exceptional students.
The "free" two year college is expected to cost around $34 billion dollars! http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...-college-plan-could-cost-34b-year_823398.html But Obama and other leftists see the taxpayers as cows that can be milked forever with no ill effects. Plus when everyone has a degree what practical good is it? The two year degree will be the new high school diploma.
Is it a pathetic power grab, or one that just happens to makes sense regardless of who is proposing it or why? I reject hyper-partisanship when it comes to education discussions. I don't care who gets the credit or the votes for doing the right thing. - - - Updated - - - So what if the two-year degree is the new HS diploma. That means we're elevating our standards for the minimum education expectation of American students.
