Obama Quitly Signs Ban To Prevent Ownership Of The Famous WW2 M-1 Garand Rifle

I picked up the story on Michael Savages home page yesterday that carries current happenings. It's still up. It gave no disposition that this story was a year ago.

http://www.michaelsavage.wnd.com/

 

Perhaps at first blush but if you actually read the title you will see that it is accurate (sans the missing "e"). Obama did ban the importation of these Garands to prevent people from owning them.

It will have an effect but it will not "depress the heck out of the value", IMO. Today, you can buy an all original Garand with 80%+ finish for $1100 or an ugly one for $500. Those prices are already quite reasonable for a quality semi-automatic .30-06 with historical significance. If those 800,000 hit the US shores the prices would go down slightly for a bit but once all or most of those are snatched up the prices will go right back up. The market can more than absorb 800,000 most of which would be going straight to a gun safe and not be resold for decades. The M1 Garand is on the list of nearly every collector in the US. There are probably more people who want one than actually own one. They are set apart from nearly all other WWII battle rifles in that they were semi-auto, and never produced in the same numbers as the Enfields and Mosin-Nagants or even the 98Ks which still bring in a decent price despite their large numbers and being bold action.

 

Accurate assessment, Sierra Hotel! Nagants are a dime a dozen with Enfields not being far behind. I really like the 98, great rifle that everyone copied, yes, even our 03 Springfield and 1917 Enfield. My Model 70 and 700 are both copies of the Mauser Bros work and they did it well over 100 years ago!

For genius they might be the only ones that would give John Browning a run for his money.

 

I own my father's M-1 Garand. Do I have to surrender it to the feds?

 

Ummmmm no, unless you voted for Dumbo and in that case you must give it to me.

 

Laws give government the power to ban the importation on any firearm it deems dangerous.

But there is nothing more or less dangerous about the M-1 Garand than any other semi-automatic rifle being sold in the United States now.

For Obama to say that it is a threat to our safety because it was once owned by the South Korean military is only meant as a smokescreen for ignorant libs who do not know and do not care anything about firearms other than that they want the all banned.

If Obama has the M-1 in his sights as a dangerous weapon then he is really after every privately held gun in America.

We need to get rid of this bum before he takes all our rights away.

 

You're saying I can keep my dad's M-1 Garand. So what's the point of this thread saying I can't?

 

Americans should be allowed to buy and own the M-1's we gave to South Korea 50 years ago if we want to.

Obama is preventing the ownership of those weapons.

 

Sounds like the South Koreans are returning weapons we loaned them during the Korean War. These weapons were paid for by US taxpayers. So shouldn't they be returned to the US government instead of being offered for sale to US citizens?

 

Sounds like a good idea, then the government could auction them off to try to get some of the money back!

 

You don't know if we gave them the arms or sold the guns to them.

But there is no question the S Koreans own them now and individual Americans would like to buy them.

 

Instead, it sounds like the South Koreans are trying to sell us back weapons we already paid for.

 

The qualities of an assault rifle are if it has any of these:
Pistol Grip
10+ round magazine
Fully automatic

M-1 Garand doesn't

You could kill 30 people with a kitchen knife, lets ban those!

You don't believe a shotgun is a powerful weapon? Lol, just admit it you have no idea what you're talking about.

Nobody is going to commit a crime with a 10lb beast like the M-1 garand. Or any rifle for that matter, bar automatic weapons. The only reason to bring a 2-4 ft gun into a crime is if it's automatic.

A .22 could kill as many people as any other gun due to the bouncing around of the bullet in the chest cavity, the only reason they don't ban them is because police officers wear body armor and they have no stopping power.

 

That's a clever guess but with no evidence to back it up.

The guns belong to South Korea and they would like to sell them to American citizens if not for Obama.

 

Do you know anything about the Korean War? If you did, you'd know the South Koreans weren't in a position to buy squat from us then.

 

Actually the record for air to air kills is 352 by Hartmann, a Luftwaffe pilot, during WW2.

 

I now quite a bit about the Korean War.

You can assume we gave them the guns but you can't prove it.

The Koreans could have paid for the arms anytime during or after the war.

 

Didn't Rand himself say they're loaners from the Korean War?

 

Yeah, apparently most German soldiers tell you that it was bull(*)(*)(*)(*). It's the American soldiers telling you that it was a big deal to the Germans. How would they know?

 

Rand said they're loaners. Didn't see anything about the ROK subsequently purchasing them.

 

Not really seeing the problem. I'd gladly buy one (or from the sound of it two so I could get one that works). We probably did give them the weapons, and that means they're free to do what they want with them, including sell them back to us. Yeah it's kind of strange but there is certainly a market for them over here, so why not?

 

Rand does say that.

But they clearly belong to the South Koreans now unless Obama can produce documents to prove that they still belong to the US government.

I doubt if he can.

Because so far Obama has not claimed US ownership of the weapons.

 

It's crazy how much higher WWII ace kills were in comparison. I wonder why. Was it more planes in the air, more sorties, more time?

 

I re-read Paul's message, and see nothing about ownership passing to the South Korean government. He also says "South Korean" instead of South Korean government.

So does that mean weapons purchased by the US taxpayer and loaned to the South Korean government are now being offered for purchase by private South Korean citizens?

 

Probably because the Germans produced the Bf109 (not the Me109 was so many call it) early. It was remained a great fighter until the end of the war. In the right hands it was a murder weapon and German pilots tended not to be rotated home.