Obama Recalls All Aircraft Carriers, Setting Up U.S. For Something BIG

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  1. One Mind

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    Perhaps Obama just wanted to give the sailors a gift and bring em home for the holidays?

    This would only concern me if we were at war with another nation and our carriers needed to be at sea to fight the invading force. But as far as I can tell, we are not actively in a hot war, just the covert stuff, economic war.

    I think some people just have vivid imaginations is all that is going on here. And it does not help when large swaths of us simple no longer trust our own gov't, and for very good reasons. This is the fault of all of these treasonous politicians who basically sold the people out, down the road, as they were giving our new robber barons what they want in exchange for money. When you look at what Hillary's war chest was, with most of it coming from robber barons or wanna be barons, WHY should you trust any politician who depends upon these people and their vast wealth? You shouldn't, which is why many of us do not trust our own gov't. It is the fault of the gov't, not the people.
     
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    Both I and Bravo Duck have given maps as to where they are......furthermore you tried to debunk Fox News who I used and had reported that they all were in port. Looks like Fox News had it Right.

    I wasn't talking about anything except for all our carriers being in port. Which the OP had that part Right.

    You tried to debunk the reality.....I brought to you. Oh and the whole thread isn't a lie anymore.....the fact is, all US carriers are in Port.


    Which is an act of sheer stupidity, and there is no way.....That BO peep isn't aware of it.
     
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    They are not in 1 port.
    They are not all lined up in a row.
    They aren't sitting ducks waiting for WWIII to start.
    Obama isn't going to instill martial law.
    The OP is a lie.
     
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    Isn't Obama just making it easier for Trump?
    He did say he wanted to bring all US troops back home frome everywhere.
    So why would we have any carrier groups out?

    Besides Trump is conceding the world to Putin. That was part of the deal he made to become President.

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    Don't worry BOs man says the Air Force will cover the gap.



    Air Force says readiness problems will last through 2023.....


    Air Force officials say their current projections show it will be 2023 before the service fully recovers from serious degradations in combat readiness. Officials said those problems were not caused entirely by sequestration, but the automatic budget cuts dramatically increased their severity.

    With the relatively-sudden onset of the first round of budget cuts in 2013, the Air Force grounded 31 squadrons of aircraft for more than three months, deferred depot maintenance, slashed facility upkeep by half and furloughed the vast majority of its civilian employees. A subsequent funding boost from Congress helped matters, the Air Force says. But a year later, only half the air units that were affected by sequestration have gotten back to the proficiency levels they had before the cuts kicked in.

    And Gen. Mark Welsh, the Air Force chief of staff, said those levels were already too low.

    “The things that affect readiness are much more complex than just flying hour money each year,” he told the House Armed Services Committee Friday. “There are things like investment in training range space, in threat systems to train against on those ranges, on live virtual, constructive simulation capabilities as we get more modern aircraft, where the only place you can re-create a real threat environment is in a simulator because you can’t afford to do it in the real world. Those things have not been funded over the last 10 to 15 years because we have been tied up spending money on operations and supporting operations in Afghanistan and Iraq. It is time for us to get back to full-spectrum training and readiness, and that’s what’s going to take us 10 years, to re-build those things that are behind the power curve, especially as we bring on an airplane like the F-35.”

    The Air Force’s readiness recovery would take even longer if it goes back to sequestration-level budget figures in 2016 and beyond, Welsh and Deborah Lee James, the Air Force secretary, said in written testimony for Friday’s hearing......snip~

    http://federalnewsradio.com/sequest...ys-readiness-problems-will-last-through-2023/
     
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    They are all in port.....just not one port. Most in the Military and former Military would know this from the get go. That's the reality you cant get around. Nor the fact that the Peep knows it. Nor the fact how all that wind you were blowing about Fox News..........Was completely wrong and not even close to the truth.

    So.....you lied about Fox News, and got caught.
     
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    Obama threaten many defense authorization bills with a veto. But to many of the Republicans in Congress don't have a pair and if they didn't have the 2/3 votes to over ride a veto (which they never had,) they let Obama have his way.

    Here's the problem with the Obama's White House sequestration, 50% of the automatic cuts have to be with defense and national security but defense spending only accounts for 21% of the national budget. That's why the Obama White House loves the sequestration. Less cuts for free stuff and a whole lot of cuts for defense.
     
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    Nah.....BO the peep is just making it easier to prove just how much of a putz he is. Just more of his incompetency.
     
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    So that makes the OP a lie.
    I didn't lie about Faux. My only statement of them is real people don't get real news from them. So your personal attack is childish.
    Also, the thread title say obama recalls all of them. I will go out on a limb and call that a lie also.
     
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    Obama has committed many impeachable offenses but the Republicans don't have the cajones to write up articles of impeachment being scared of being called a racist. And if articles of impeachment were to be drawn up you know Obama, Michelle, Valerie and the Democrats in Congress not forgetting the MSM would be playing the race card. It's what liberals do.
     
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    Based on screwball conspiracy theories and ignorance... The Arab world is the same way.. Lies, gossip, rumor.. and ignorance drive public "feeeeeling".
     
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    Like all things liberal, they'll probably blame it on Russian hackers, or those non-existent 'right-wing terrrorists' we've heard about for the whole Obama presidency that never once materialized...
     
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    Liberals aren't the ones whining about our Aircraft Carriers being in one place.
     
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    More like you are the one who sounds paranoid.

    The only thing I'm paranoid about is having my son's FA-18 dropping out of the sky because the lack of funding for spare parts, maintenance and training and just during 2016 his squadron had three FA-18's fall out of the sky with the lost of two Marine aviators.
     
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    And when none of this happens, I can only assume you will come here, admit you were wrong and have no clue what you were talking about, while issuing a formal apology to Obama.
     
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    They aren't in one place. There is a problem with them not performing their regular duties though, regardless of the politics...
     
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    Russia and the chi-coms don't need any carriers, their strategy is A2/AD. -> https://www.usnwc.edu/Lucent/OpenPdf.aspx?id=95
     
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    lol like your list of PMs is any more distinguished. Pot meet kettle.

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    What gave it away? The current date?

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    Wrong again. It put them in harms way on a mission that no military leader could find a reason to do it on a rebuilt chopper over 30 years old.

    Try and think about that for a moment then think about how smart it is to not have a single carrier at sea since World War II.
     
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    The real story is, since WW ll it's the first time in history that the U.S. Navy hasn't had a carrier at sea.

    1/3 of our carriers should be at sea and in their assigned AOR 24/7.
     
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    Hahahahaha..:clapping:
     
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    Well then start a thread about that.
    This thread is the lie about obama recalling all those ships, lining them up in a row as sitting ducks.
    One which you fell for, BTW. But I see the need to change the story to cover the tin foil hat belief.
     
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    Then you should read the OP. It says they are and are that way setting the US up for something big.
    This is the topic of the OP.
     
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    Partly true, but exaggerated.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/30/no-us-carrier-at-sea-leaves-gap-in-middle-east.html

    There are no carriers at sea except for one which is returning to home port. Carriers are not all in a row or even in the same port.

    Having all naval strike forces in port or on their way to port is so incompetent that I wonder if its intentional.
     
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    Like a You Tube video and holding a demonstration in Benghazi ?

    What's a demonstration without bringing along AK's, machine guns, heavy AA Machine guns, RPG's and mortars ?
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised!

    It's pretty easy to do, And anyone who has spent any time listening to right wing talk radio or reading right wing posts on forums like this know that the audience falls for it every time.

    Look at the history of right wing media in the last decade and a half.

    The GOP manufactured the Tea Party movement. It was an outright fraud, run by Washington insiders, and disguised to look like a grass roots organization. And a few scam artists started their own tea party sites to get money out of gullible right wingers.

    Right wing fundraising scams have made fortunes for secretive operatives all over the US>

    The Ben Carson campaign was a right wing fundraising scam.

    And right wing media like Breitbart, Daily Caller, InfoWars, NewsMax, etc, have been making up stories and peddling lies to a receptive audience for over a decade now.

    So, how much of a stretch is it really to see guys sitting in their basements setting up
     

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