Obama Will Seek Citizenship Path in One Fast Push

So begins a propaganda campaign to win the hearts and minds of Americans so they will approve of amnesty for more than 11 million illegal aliens.

The Times story makes it appear that the debate is really over two approaches to legalization; the all-at-once Obama plan, or a piecemeal plan headed up by Senator Rubio (Both want all illegal aliens legalized). It fails to mention the alternative favored by most Americans......enforce the law, beginning with the border.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/u...congress-on-immigration-overhaul.html?hp&_r=0

 

Unless the left can get conservative buy in there is going to be at least thirty years of real hostility and division over this issue. The United States becomes less ours to the extent it belongs to the illegals.

 

obama wants us to look just like dictatorship mexico ,and have the same gun laws.
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Great news!.......with our unemployment rate pushing 8% (and much higher in the low/no skills black community) our government has decided it would be a smashing idea to make citizens out of another 20 million low/no skilled workers (yes, the "11 million" will become 20 million)........and the really good news is that these 20 million "new citizens" will immediately petition for aged mom and pop along with 15 siblings back in Guatemala. They will all come in and immediately be put into ObummerCare with their diabetes and heart conditions and whatever else.....meanwhile, after paying into the system for 40 years, I will be asked to push back my retirement and medicaid benefits to age 70 because "there's not enough money in the system"........aren't progressives wonderful people!

 

Yep, should be the safest country on earth...but something went wrong.

 

yeah there so full of It.. of fantasy wonder there minds are cluttered with dreamACT~s
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You're so heartless. Just think of all the children born here to illegals or brought over in a trunk, who had no control over their plight...I'm just parroting the moronic liberal talking points. Just think of the children...they deserve a better life here at the expense of us all...and my lifetime of Govt payments none of these people have paid into, but will be given...ain't life fair for the good people out there, while the selfish suck us all dry.

 

Too bad Mexicans aren't the Chinese,

 

But, but, but.....isn't there a limitless supply of money for everyone.....why don't we just bring in the other six billion people in the world and put them on Obummercare and medicare.....wouldn't that be the nice thing to do......I mean why not?.....do you hate other people......do you hate children?

 

don't yah know we can't hate any more, that is illegal language violation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz4HEEiJuGo
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now... a mind thought crime enforced by the liberal media .

 

Just a reminder, Rubio is a darling of the right and an anchor baby himself.

 

He may be until the majority of people see him pushing for this crap. Remember that the right loved Christy also until he showed his man-love for Obama.

 

It's funny how working together with someone in the midst of a massive disaster that devastated millions of people and then complimenting the way they handled it translates into "man love" to the right.

Would you rather he did what? Told Obama to (*)(*)(*)(*) off?

 

He has sold out to the left and its stuff like this that has disenfranchised him with the right.

Chris Christie cried after getting a hug from Bruce Springsteen

http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/11/06/bromance-alert-chris-christie-cried-after-getting-a-hug-from-bruce-springsteen/

Now there is nothing wrong with giving credit where credit is due. Many if not all republicans commended Obama for getting Bin Laden but they didn't sway and fawn over him and then attack their own party afterwards as Christie has done.

Big difference. He is a politician for the republicans and as such must always remember that he is part of a larger political game being played. This outreach he is showing is not returned by the left so therefore weakens his party in the longrun.

Basic politics.

 

OMG you mean to tell me a man who was born and bred in New Jersey loves Bruce Springsteen and was (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stoked when he got a hug from him? WEIRD!

Christie didn't sway or fawn over anyone. He gave thanks where thanks was due, gave criticism where criticism was due, and hugged a music legend who was raising money for his devastated state. Have the republicans really became so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing pathetic and inbred that they can't even talk to democrats or criticize their own party when they are in the wrong?

 

I'm not a republican but Chistie has certainly been overstepping some bounds. Now imagine if Harry Reid had walked up and gave Bush a big hug after his big speech following 9-11 and then saw Ted Nugent and burst into tears after hugging him. How do you think the left would have responded to that?

 

We give them citizenship, we might just as well do away with the border. These people will feel all they need to do is get in here one way or another and sooner or later, they will also become citizens. We can't deport them all, but we don't have to reward them with citizenship.

 

This is what the left doesn't understand. They, along with some republicans, are just playing for votes.

 

I don't speak for the left, but I certainly wouldn't care. Bush gave an inspiring speech after 9/11 and complimenting his response would be an appropriate and non-partisan (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) thing to do. If Reid found Nugent one of his favorite musicians and was stoked to meet him, that's his business. The difference being that Nugent would never hug Reid.

Your analogy doesn't really match up though. A better one would be that the democratic governor of New York would thank Bush for his response and then he would hug a New York music legend, who happened to be a conservative, who was raising money for the disaster in his state and was moved to tears.

 

People still love Christy. He really did nothing wrong. But Rubio is another story. His immigration amnesty BS is no better than most liberals. The ONLY thing we should be doing is what most of Europe does...if you can't pay to support yourself, you don't get in.

It may sound cruel, but anyone here illegally should be deported and their country of origin should be fined. THAT's how you fix the problem, because Mexico seriously doesn't give %$&^#&#. They want as many people gone. If we started billing them for everyone we catch, withholding foreign aid until all debt is paid, they might actually start giving a poop about their own people.

Examples have to be made and if its an entire generation or two of kids who were brought here when they were 2 or 3, so be it. Their parents are selfish ingrates, coming here knowing their breaking laws and exploiting our good graces. Our politicians are scum for allowing it.

 

It will also disenfranchise anyone who was thinking of actually going through the actual citizenship process.

 

We can do both at the same time. Since there is no way we are going to round up 11million people and send them packing....we must give the a path to become legal. Pres. Bush tried to do it twice during his term; but both Democrats and many Republicans were not onboard. Our lawmakers should have gotten it done back then.
I suppose Obama is going to expect lots of cooperation with him......when in 2007, as Senator Barack Obama, is voted against Bush's plan and in fact helped to kill it. To get this to work he needs to involve Republicans like Rubio and others....instead of his normal "go it alone" tactics.

 

Christie should have delivered a roundhouse to obama and knocked the Drone Warrior on his ass.

 

"we must give the a path to become legal." Why must we???

Attrition Through Enforcement Is the True Middle-ground Solution

The open borders crowd constantly tell the American people that there are only two solutions to our nation's illegal alien crisis – give illegal aliens amnesty or round them up and deport them. This is a diversionary tactic to draw public attention away from the most effective and efficient solution – Attrition Through Enforcement.

The principle behind Attrition Through Enforcement is that living illegally in the United States will become more difficult and less satisfying over time when the government – at ALL LEVELS – enforces all of the laws already on the books. It is also imperative that the government with the full cooperation of the private sector, implements certain workplace enforcement measures. The goal is to make it extremely difficult for unauthorized persons to live and work in the United States. There is no need for taxpayers to watch the government spend billions of their dollars to round up and deport illegal aliens; they will buy their own bus or plane tickets back home if they can no longer earn a living here.

 

Fancy that, as of Dec 2012 there were 12.2 million people out of work. Even if only half of those illegals were taking up regular jobs, we could cut the number of unemployed almost in half. I think that idea will go over as well as a fart in a job interview.

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So WAS Christie, but both are sinking faster than the Andria Doria.