Obamacare Logistical Apocalypse Nowhere To Be Seen Yet

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Really? A fake facebook page is real americans? Let me bust out my magnifying glass cause I want to burn my initials into the astro-turf there.

 

Weren't you the one who posted Obama's website for facts?

 

You do know that Facebook is a wonderful way to spread your political agenda right? And so is this your way of sending out the information for the apocalyptic Obamacare? That's pretty funny right there.

 

Fake???????

Priceless.

Its the real deal, dude. Much to your chagrin. (The 'm' in the address stands for mobile... since I'm posting from my phone.)

Wanna admit you're wrong now??

ROFLMFAO

 

Well, considering it was literally the bill in toilet-reading digest form, I'd consider it much more accurate than a fake facebook page. So have fun with your astro turf. I'll stick to the documents being signed on capital hill, thanks.

 

You continue to "Attack the Messenger", when the source is the Obama White House. Your ploy is called a Logical Fallacy and is an automatic debate loser.

Would you care to attack this source?

Obama administration knew millions could not keep their health insurance

Buried in Obamacare regulations from July 2010 is an estimate that because of normal turnover in the individual insurance market, “40 to 67 percent” of customers will not be able to keep their policy. And because many policies will have been changed since the key date, “the percentage of individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given year exceeds the 40 to 67 percent range.”

That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them.

NBC News is reporting the same exact thing. They are the ONLY alphabet drive by media source to publish this damning fact that comes straight out of the June 2010 edition of the Federal Register produced by the Obama Administration.

 

Um...*psst*

You're on a political forum.

 

You know, you should take the time to read your own link very carefully before you post it, instead of only reading the title. In that maze of can't and cans, you will find tucked in there where it says you can keep your plan. That is true. No where did Obama say those grandfather plans that were put in place before 2010 would be tampered with. But after 2010, he never said some of the ins. companies wouldn't try and cancel after that time period. That being the case, the administration would replace it with another policy that is the same if that were to happen. So, what the article is saying is, that you may get canceled but you get a like policy back. Which is the same thing as saying, if you like your policy you can keep it, if Obamacare holds up there end by replacing it with the same kind of policy. Obama never said during this whole period that insurance companies wouldn't try and cancel on folks. Not once! As a matter of fact, many new this would happen as a retaliation effort.

 

I bet they don't think its too funny. If you ask a legitimate question, you'll even get an official response from healthcare.gov.

Their mistake was creating a fb page where folks could post their true opinions. I'm sure they regret it now, too.

https://m.facebook.com/Healthcare.g...://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php&_rdr

 

Ready to admit you're wrong about the official govt fb page?

 

I doubt it. Spreading ignorance and misinformation through Facebook to those who are informed when they come across it, will always have that edge of surprise and inform in their hip pocket. They sort of have the ability to filter out the nonsense for the real.

 

I'm ready to admit that I bet they're saying literally the same thing you keep posting here, which is just heresay, ESP readings and other mumbo jumbo. I'm still waiting for YOUR personal story...but you won't be that bold, will you?

 

Ok you didn't even address Riot's list so I'm going to copy it and give you another chance.

He destroyed the faith in the White House by continuously lying.
Like if you make $250,000.00 or less your premiums won't change. LIE
Like your doctor... Lie
Like your plan....lie
Won't raise taxes on the middle class. LIE
Won't raise taxes on the low income... LIE
Obama care isn't a tax....LIE
No innocent killed in drone strikes...LIE.
No more unbidded contracts... LIE
Etc...... So many more.

So, care to justify this? I mean I thought it was "time for a change". So if you're rationalizing these things by blaming Bush then I guess perfectly ok for somebody to treat you like a pawn and make a fool of you while lying to your face as long as they're a member of the Democratic party right?

 

It's the govt's website. Are you ready to admit that you mistakenly accused me of posting a link to a FAKE facebook page?

While we're waiting... you should really read the personal stories posted there. Fascinating REAL LIFE stuff. Here's an exchg you'll probably like... answered by 'healthcare.gov' her/himself:

Katie Brook Zorena Does "by December 23rd" mean the deadline is tonight at midnight (Dec 22) or do we have until midnight on the 23rd??
Like · Reply · December 22, 2013 at 8:15pm..

HealthCare.gov Morning Katie Brook Zorena, You have until midnight on Dec 23rd to enroll in a plan with coverage starting Jan. 1st.
Like · December 23, 2013 at 7:53am..

Hal Jordan ...until they extend the deadline. Again. And again. 17 times now.
Like · December 24, 2013 at 7:15pm..

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Oh those zany Americans

https://www.facebook.com/Healthcare.gov

 

I have no personal story to share. My insurance thru my employer was unaffected. Doesn't mean I can't have empathy for other WORKING Americans who aren't so fortunate.

Have you shared your story yet?

 

I don't make enough to be 'mandated'.
BOOM.

 

The OP's article is titled "Obamacare Logistical Apocalypse Nowhere To Be Seen Yet", I guess the key word is yet.

As seen above California extended it deadline for paying your premium to Jan 15 with insurance being retroactive to Jan 1. I guess that means not many have actually paid so far. Why would they? Obama Care's hardship exemptions are just chock full of loopholes...

I'll go through a few....

Young guys with roommates and millions of homeowners will love this one. Simply supply the eviction or foreclosure notice with your exemption application. It says "facing" eviction or foreclosure, there appears to be no actual requirement that either event actually takes place.

Here's another real keeper. Folks will simply not pay one utility till they get a shutoff notice, then pay off the balance to get back in good graces with the utility. Submit the shut off notice with your hardship application.

I might be able to use this one myself. I was making payments on a medical bill and they got cheesed off and sent me a big red past due notice stating the full amount was due and payable immediately. It will be less than 24 months as of April 15th 2014 so I can submit it for the first penalty year.

A bonanza for those in Red States that chose NOT to expand Medicaid.

Pick your appropriate exemption and apply, what do you have to lose they can only say no. Which may not happen prior to the Nov 2014 mid-term.

 

I'm not saying the 'official gov't facebook page' is fake. I'm saying people pay to plant fake complaints. You're calling them real Americans. Is a real American making 35k a year or 200k a year in your view? Because if it's towards the 200k side, you're in denial and if REAL people are complaining, they're probably on the 200k side of my spectrum OR they simple are hired PR guns for opposition. It's been shown time and time again that things such as Twitter and Facebook followers can be bought. Several politicians have done that to get more exposure and puff up their appearance on social media. You don't think opponents of ACA can't hire people to make up stuff to post on FB's ACA representation page too?

 

Um... yeah, you did. The rest is just a desperate attempt to deny the bad news.

 

Okay, well, whatever. You feel the need to ignore the gist of my message and focus on the messaging and feel like you won.

Fine.

here's a trophy, winner.

 

What an administrative nightmare. Only morons with ZERO business experience would think it possible to manage such an atrocity. I just keep shaking at my head in disbelief. It's unfrigginbelievable.

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It'd be different if you learned from your mistakes...

 

They can deny the bad news all they want, but Wednesday, November 5, 2014, there will be no denial.

 

The key will be to find out when most folks are submitting their exemption applications. Once they get really swamped, the Government workers will just pull out the "approved" Rubber Stamp just to clear their desks.

 

Well, forgive me for not 'learning' to listen to your extremely predictable rhetoric I've heard from everyone before. I probably actually won't ever learn that lesson because nothing you say is anything I've not heard from establishment Republicans. If I wanted to hear regurgitation, I'd watch birds feed their young on Nat'l Geographic Channel.