Obama's Green Jobs 'Solyndra' under investigation for waste, fraud and abuse

The problem is for stimulus in renewable energy, small start-up companies do not have the capability to hire enough workers and develop large-scale projects. It is big oil and large corporations such as Google and Microsoft that have capabilities and some willingness to invest in these technologies, but not enough to make a difference.

One policy that we can implement to make a difference could be a phased in and phased out carbon emissions tax. This tax will be at a low rate of 3 or 4 percent, and will be only imposed on big oil companies, and will gradually phase in, and gradually phase out based upon transition of these companies to investing in renewable energy. To compliment this tax, a renewable energy tax cut can be imposed on all large corporations and big oil companies that will be phased in over time in accordance with their development of renewable energy technology in a company by company approach. This is one way to supply domestic jobs for new and innovative fields, as well as reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

 

Obama administration gave GM money and they filed for bankruptcy anyway. So no. Besides, GM has already been proven to be an excellent business model. They never needed stimulus money but for some reason decided to take it anyway.

 

That speech will probably cost us $535 billion rather than million. Ya never know with these people - it's never enough. Previous failure can never be a factor in trying the same old useless strategies. The most economically stimulating thing he could say at his upcoming monumental speech is: "I and my entire staff, as well as Congress and their staff, will now go back home, lock ourselves in our basements, and **** for the remainder of our terms".

 

The problem is politicians deciding with other people's money.

Real stimulus (sustainable growth) comes from getting government out of the way, and letting individuals vote with their dollar as to where the next boom will be. People are much better at decision making when it's their own money.

 

Why use force to convince companies to explore and find ways to use alternative fuel? If the markets feel that it is a viable substitute is need it they will find substitutes without a carbon emissions tax. Toyota and other manufactures have cars made out of carbon fiber and they have switch grass which is a better substitute for corn ethanol.

 

I find things like this to be quite "stimulating"

What Obama giveth, he can taketh away.

i think we should stimulate that business more. Give them a billion more.

 

Maybe he can give every user on this forum 1 million dollars to talk about whatever is going on in the world for an entire year. I can get on board with that.

 

Uhhh, that was part of the plan. The point was it wasn't sold off in bankruptcy but rather reorganized. Moreover the real drag on GM was GMAC, which invested in CDSs, which the GOP made sure were deregulated when they should have been.

You apparently don't know what happened or why, which is a general condition of *********y.

 

Don't you understand. As long as they don't produce anything, nor make a single dime it's all good. After all, the money yo give them will be spent and that will somehow circulate and grow the economy.

 

for every stimulated dollar I heard that that the GDP grows by $79.22 or some other similar fable

 

They weren't deregulated. They had pretty much every bureaucracy covering those CDSs. But nice revisionist history. Drones will be drones.

What a joke.

 

Hopefully that doesn't count as vacation time for him or his administration.

 

That's the problem, big oil corporations and large only see oil (and maybe coal and natural gas) as the most cost-effective and profitable forms of energy. As a result, we will continue to depend on foreign oil and a minimal amount of domestic oil. In order to lower the costs of production of alternative energy sources, you need a large amount of companies and corporations to invest in it. This will require a tax cut, but it will also require a turn-off from oil. A carbon emissions tax is the perfect way to help this nation transition to more environmentally friendly energy sources. This would be the first chance to become self-sufficient as a nation when it comes to energy.

 

Everything since the signing of the Stimulus bill has been a fable.

 

They can call it anything they like. Hell, all things considered, it would be cost effective even if we had to pay them triple their normal salaries. Just stay in the basement and keep the piehole closed.

 

GM cut costs, spending by getting rid of the "dead weight" cars. But I guess making the Saturn Aura and the Chevy Malibu (same car, different brand) in two different shops meant they should get twice the revenue huh? NOPE.

 

not entirely true

there have been some good paying, taxpayer funded govt jobs created with good, taxpayer funded benefits.

 

GM makes crap cars and over pays employees. But since the congress lead the investigation into the #1 selling car company in America, Toyota, GM has been making the come back. BTW, what was the finding again for Toyota's "sticky pedal" recall? Oh, NOTHING wrong with the cars, glad the government could put out some propoganda against their number 1 contender in the car market right AFTER they bought GM.

 

Scott Brown says stimulus 'didn't create one new job' Rated: "Pants on fire"

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...brown-says-stimulus-didnt-create-one-new-job/

Cantor says stimulus "failed to get people back to work." Rated: "False"

*CBO: Between 1.3 million and 3.6 million jobs saved or created.

*IHS/Global Insight: 2.45 million jobs saved or created.

*Macroeconomic Advisers: 2.3 million jobs saved or created.

*Moody’s Economy.com: 2.5 million jobs saved or created.

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...or-says-stimulus-failed-get-people-back-work/

 

Yes they did, unfortunately this meant the death of my beloved Pontiac Trans-Am. I can understand it of course, doesn't make sense to sell the same car 2-3 times with different badges, and a different nose and tail....but it hurts.

I always favored the styling of the Trans Am/Firebirds over the Z28/Camaros.


R.I.P Pontiac.

 

Wrong; the problem with the stimulus is the idea that you can steal money from those who are productive and “redistribute” it to failures like this.

I guess you didn’t know that the technology already exists. It is the high cost of implementation and inefficient level of supply that makes these ventures a massive failure.

Why do Liberals think that Big Oil companies pay taxes? This is only another tax on Americans who are already burdened with the high cost of this administration’s policies and massive amounts of deficits and debt that will take decades to pay back.

In other words, let’s allow bureaucrats to determine our energy needs and policies instead of the markets. How has that worked with the auto companies? How has that worked with the housing markets?

I am constantly amazed, and amused, when Liberals argue that the morons who can’t balance their budgets can manage something as complex as the supply and demand of energy.

 

Someone who GETS it ^^

 

we won't see a penny of that money back. typical left wing bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

LOL... Conspiracy theory forum is that way, dude... ~~~~>

 

I don't agree. Reason why I do not agree is because a Carbon Tax broadens the term on who or what emits carbon. Aside from the fact that Carbon has not been label a pollute. I understand what you are trying to do, but you don't want force people at an abrupt stop to stop using oil. It's what's holding up the entire economy.

If the government didn't make it illegal to drill for oil or make it a illegal to convert coal to oil we might be energy independent from the middle east.