Obama's Half Typed/Half Hand Written Birth Certificate Discovered. It's Badly Forged

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  1. SFJEFF

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    This is evidence:

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 27, 2011
    HAWAI‘I HEALTH DEPARTMENT GRANTS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPIES OF ‘LONG FORM’ BIRTH CERTIFICATE
    HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
    “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”
    On April 22, 2011, President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy, requesting two certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley, the President‟s personal attorney, made the same request in writing on behalf of the President. (Letters from President Obama and Ms. Corley are attached).
    On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama‟s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.
    President Obama authorized Ms. Corley to pick up the documents. On April 25, 2011, Ms. Corley appeared in person at the Hawai„i State Department of Health building in Honolulu, paid the requisite fee, and was given the two certified copies, a response letter from Director Fuddy to President Obama, and a receipt for payment. (Letter from Director Fuddy is attached).
    -MORE-

    Mike Zullo unofficially saying he hasn't found anything yet is not evidence.
     
  2. scott e.

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    crap...... he's hiding something, it will come out.
     
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    I used to use the same rational to argue with the birther's, until I saw the piece with the official that used to work the department that issues these birth certificates. The rational for the hand written numbers is compelling.

    I would make no conclusion based on this info, but I certainly do have questions based on this info, and you are a group think idiot if you don't!

    These days the waters can be muddied to the point you don't know which way is up. Syria is a prime example of this to me. Anyone that thinks they know what is going on in Syria on either side is an idiot.

    The only way to move forward with these muddied waters, is through transparency, so that we can ask the right questions.

    I find it hilarious that anyone thinks they know the facts on either side of this argument, when our media is so obviously dysfunctional. Its like the argument in the movie Crimson Tide. Arguing over whether you should launch nuclear weapons based on incomplete information, is a lose, lose situation. Only gaining more reliable information can lead to anything short of rolling the dice hoping luck wins out, and that you are proven correct.
     
  4. SFJEFF

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    Well who can argue with evidence like that?

    Birthers lol
     
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    Who keeps necroing these old threads?

    Look, it's common knowledge that obama is a fraud. Only the most brain-dead, cousin marrying morons believe differently.

    Why do you people keep fighting the facts?
     
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    LOL, and yet, time and time again, like now, when asked for your evidence of this, you run like a scalded dog.
     
  7. SFJEFF

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    Birthers keep necroing these threads. And just because you 'believe' something doesn't mean it is a fact.

    Sorry to let you know.

    And Santa is not real either.

    Birthers lol.
     
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    More Americans died in Afghanistan today. Does anyone give a (*)(*)(*)(*)?
     
  9. SFJEFF

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    yes I care Albert.

    It has nothing to do with this thread, but yes I care.
     
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    Granny says...

    ... Is it really half typed an' half hand-written?

    Dat sounds kinda odd.

    Mebbe dey was typin' it...

    ... an' the typrewriter broke down...

    ... so dey had to finish it in handwritin'.
    :grandma:
     
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    Why is it that every time I see an obamabot type that I get the sensation that someone has just licked my nut sack.
     
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    the bots are now part of the overall story. word on the obot street is that some attorneys general are "going after" some prominent birthers. perhaps another harbinger, even if true.

    here is an indicator of the relative youth of this caper. instead of it being "laid to rest" as the obama flock would promulgate, more and more experts are taking a close look at the obama story, not just the birth certificate pdf. i'm reading "dream" a second time now. after the election i'll have more flexibility.



    “In vector graphics software, an image is composed of elements,” the website notes. “If the ‘Long-Form Birth Certificate’ of Obama was a photocopied document then it should not be composed of separate parts.”


    http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/israeli-science-website-obama-birth-certificate-forged/


    ostensibly, the proverbial cat is out of the American bag.
     
  14. Really People?

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    An Israeli has proclaimed the document to be a forgery, but, as that doesn't appear to be any sort of official gov't agency's website, a logical person would stop short of claiming that Israel has declared the BC to be a forgery...

    But, logic would be required, and, well, we know all about that...

    WND...

    You guys never learn, do you?
     
  15. Really People?

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    This is about as intelligent a comment as we're going to get out of you, isn't it?
     
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    One Israeli has a page linked to the same nonsense that's been disproven time and time again.

    Since none of these sources have actually viewed the document, none of them are evidence.

    Show me evidence that the birth certificate is a fake. Or, run away again.
     
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    the guy doesn't seem to be a rube. maybe more experts will look at it. perhaps savannah guthrie, the tv personality.
     
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    I guess like all things Birther- thats what turns you on.
     
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    You mean the co-anchor of The Today Show?

    lol

    OK...

    Have fun...
     
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    nobody has viewed the document, save maybe a couple of the new people. whomever xeroxed it in hawaii.
     
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    Lots of people have seen the document, over several years...

    Not just new people...

    It helps to know things before you say them...
     
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    then tell us who was in the room.
     
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    I can tell you that Chiyome Fukino has seen it:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-obama-hawaii_N.htm

    That quote is over 3 years old...

    Other people have seen it as well...

    But, fear not, I'm not trying to convince you of anything...

    Birthers have no interest in facts, and, I'm well aware of that...
     
  24. SFJEFF

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    Actually we know that three people have seen them- which not surprisingly are the three people entrusted by Hawaiian State Law with maintaining birth certificates. And what you call xeroxing, the State of Hawaii calls 'copying the original birth certificate" and issueing certified copies.



    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf
    We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”On April 22, 2011, President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy, requesting two certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley, the President‟s personal attorney, made the same request in writing on behalf of the President. (Letters from President Obama and Ms. Corley are attached).
    On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama‟s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.
    .....
    Director Fuddy, in her capacity as Health Director, has the legal
    authority
    to approve the process by which copies of birth records are made.

    http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

    “Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
     
  25. scott e.

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    it's a fact that you don't know who made the copy, don't know who has seen txe original. don't know by anything other than hearsy that one exists.

    i don't have faith in the hawaii government, via the chicago way.

    it's a fact the story has never died. keep checking back here though.
     

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