Obama's Social Security Number challenged.... again

JEFF, in a way yes; Most folks probably tried to ignore whatever inconsistencies imagined or real in Obama's resume, until reality to them, set in. What irritates me, with regards to your and a few others opinion, is this notion that "race" is the primary cause or reason behind their discussions. After all, non Blacks had to vote and promote his election and to somehow think any decent in continuing that support, must be racist, is absurd.

All I was suggesting to Dan, was that the "pattern", could have been on a national level, with many Kenyan's involved, not necessarily Obama's personal plan, that I might unknowingly had been involved with. I recall a conversation with the head of the Longview Office, while negotiating their monthly meeting menu/cost and his desire to set up work experience records for his foreign students.


Shiva; When I get some time I'll reply to your post, but IMO true "Constitutionalist" also believe in the process for change. To feel two natural born American's can conceive a foreign born non citizen is very much out of order, as is the notion just being born on US Soil makes you one. This could be construed "jurisdiction of", but I would argue that...

 

What irritates me is that so many Birthers are in denial about the racial nature of much of the Birther movement. Even here on the boards, Birthers out themselves as racists regularly, and some of the biggest Birther fans are openly racist on the boards.

Bulls point- which you keep ignoring- is that Birthers continually rely upon proven lies to make their claims- over and over again. His analysis is that the only conclusion that could be reached is that racism is the obvious reason behind it.

Before anyone claims otherwise- I will say that Birthers and their fellow followers regularly make claims without any evidence at all- that Obama was born in Kenya, that Obama is a Muslim, that Obama is a Communist....and then make some general assertion.

So when I say that the basis of the Birther movement is racism- I am offering my opinion based upon my experience with Birthers, and my observations that they never- ever- ask this type of question to any white candidate.

I will stipulate that this is not proof- but at least it is not an outright lie, which is what the Birthers use. I will state here and now that my opinion on this is at least an honest opinion that the Birther movement is based on racism, while Birthers will offer lies and claim them to be facts.

 

Amazing how things are accepted from one person, and, the same is not accepted from the other...

 

i wondered why there hasn't been more about the ss number. why can't the government just clear it all up at obama's request. perhaps they could grant him a special waiver since anyone but the president could just get theirs by waiting 30 days, and that anomaly draft registration stamp with two numbers.


i'm just about to change my mind when i see this at dr. goldcoin's website.

The other mistake is more embarrassing. I said over at John Woodman’s blog, and I think here also, that I had scanned my own birth certificate using Adobe Acrobat, and that the optimization created layers and that different areas of the certificate had their own layer. I did that experiment a year ago, and what I just wrote is true. However, recently I said that more than one of those layers was a 1-bit layer and I can’t back that up. There were multiple layers in obvious color and multiple layers in obvious not color, but I cannot say that two of them are 1-bit. I’m downloading a trial copy of Adobe Illustrator now to see for sure. Previously I had just used Acrobat to export the images, but I know that one doesn’t get them all. With Acrobat image export, one doesn’t get any 1-bit layers at all (the background is 8-bit grayscale). The point is not whether I was right or wrong, but whether I reported the experiment accurately, and it turns out that based on what I had to work with at the time, I could not have supported the conclusion that I remembered.

I’m not going to lie to you, but I make mistakes and it is always appropriate to ask me for sources or evidence to back up a claim.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/

 

i don't think there is a higher incidence of racism in the birther community than in any other of the many profile reasons to dislike obama.

also you're confusing the man with the politician. you also confuse touting lies with doubt. most people just want to know what they are missing, especially when transparency was/is the centerpiece of his presidential character.

i don't know any racist birthers, if i see it i'm just as offended as any non birther or non racist. bigotry is everywhere for sure, but there is no logical connection to birtherism, unless they are already racist. and i find it hard to believe that a person who had serious questions about the president's past would become a racist just because of that. it's not plausible.

documents can be faked.... there could be a conspiracy. there is an overwhelming collection of cross referenced information that casts enormous doubt over his past. the fact that he has gone out of his way to keep those secrets only compounds the controversy and appeals to people's sense of "whodonit". we are curious by nature. if we know that the answers exist, but the government won't allow the people to see it, we are evermore titillated.

 

uncle onyonga and bill ayers ??

obama senior lived in connecticut for several years, sometimes parents get ss #'s for their babies (bill oreilly).

i think we can all agree that young obama worked under the table while he was scooping ice cream at baskins. and people say he has no business experience.

how come if romney has to show all of his returns we can't obama's from 1975 ? his w2 would have a social security number right ?? did he get a refund ??

 

lol, birthers

 

I've read a previous statement from the SS Administration that did investigate the "birther" claims where they did publically state that there wasn't any problem with it. I don't have the link but it's on either this thread or a prior thread about it. The problem is that the government has responded, just like the State of Hawaii responded related to Obama's citizenship, and the "brithers" simply ignore any responses from the authoritative adminstrations.

 

I would think you do not hear more about it simply because it has been debunked as utter nonsense, a myth that is perpetuated not because of fact by in defiance of fact.

 

Nah, it's because there's soooooooooo much more to zone in on now that Barack's had 3-1/2 yrs to screw up our economy. Doesn't matter if his SS# is all 6's... he's a lousy president who will be voted out in 91 more days.

 

Okay. I am not sure what your statement has to do with anything I said or the thread topic.

 

i don't think it's been debunked, more like unresolved. access denied like everything else. that's not the same as debunked.


This assertion can be verified; the Social Security Administration maintains on microfilm a copy of all original SS-5 applications and their appropriate numbers. Daniels has been denied access to those records.

http://floppingaces.net/2012/07/05/...ginally-owned-his-social-security-number-was/


there has been no change or release of records or verification or confirmation by the government that i've heard of.

it's kind of like the online birth certificate. it's virtual enough to prove it's genuine.... it's just not virtual enough to prove it's fake. it's been enhanced, but not altered. it's real, but it's not concrete. one copy is even high resolution. very clever. i would bet my bottom dollar that there will be more evidence come along that will objectify mr. obama.

sooner or later somebody will spill the beans. and this whitehouse leaks. loose lips sink ship. lol

 

You can think whatever you like, but that will never mean that it has not been debunked.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp

 

snopes... lol.....oh for goodness sake. i will think what i want about this, thank you.

http://www.wnd.com/2009/07/103306/ go ahead spin the snopes screenshot somehow. i think obama's own campaign site had him born at queen"s for awhile too. the guy gets around.

must have been a printing error like the literary brouchure....lol


like i've always said about obama... if it were just one or two or a few things....

but i think some of the stuff in his autobiography is true. http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/

 

I know. When all is explained gently and contradicts inane birther theories then the source sucks.

 

i'll give you all credit for maintaining the narative. obama's life story to me has the earmarks of a work in progress. not now or his future, i mean his past. it seems like areas of it are still under construction.

i hope by going after romney's taxes (as in through dingy harry) the republicans finally call an obama in your face bluff and go after his documents, pulling out all the stops.

but you guys can't tell the future anymore than we can. i think there has been enough come to light to both expect and look for more.

let me ask you this: is there anything we don't know ? is he hiding or blocking anything bad/damaging ?

 

Not having read all of the posts I just want to check to see if Article II of the US Constitution has changed because the last time I checked a person only had to be over 35 and an natural born citizen to be president. Was a new condition added that requires the candidate to furnish a SS card? If the Constitutional requirements haven't been changed then the lawsuit is frivilous and will be summarily dismissed by the court.

 

Unless fraud would be summarily dismissed by the court, I suppose Obama's got nothing to worry about.

Like the previous poster pointed out... all of Obama's little 'secrets' will come out eventually.

And BTW, I doubt very seriously if it was Obama himself who obtained the Connecticut SS number. More likely the same backer(s) who swept his relationship with Bill Ayers and Rev Wright under the rug. When it comes to Barack, ignorance is indeed bliss.

 

And we are back to the BIG Konspiracy.....

Lol....

 

plus bill ayers is a self professed forger, i think. wtf

uncle onyonga is the key, i'm telling you. or the brother that lives in the tent.

big konspiracy may be the understatement of the century. i know that little ratbastard communist abercrombie is lying his ass off. book him danno.... aloha.


hey what are you after guru ? i just became a level one contributor... jack.

 

Never really went away, did it?

Have you asked to see Romney's SS card? I suppose that will be next.

 

No- I don't go the hypocrisy route. I leave that to Birthers.

 

sign up for pay pal. I will agree to any number you come up with.

 

I have been communicating with the intrepid Ohio private investigator, Susan Daniels, for some time. A few weeks ago, I got to meet Daniels. She is smart and sincere, and she understands her subject matter thoroughly. The left-wing "rebuttals" of her data, to this point, have ranged from the inept to the absurd.

More to the point, Daniels has information that the Romney campaign needs to know and needs to talk about: President Barack Obama has apparently been using a fraudulent Social Security number for the last 25 years.

On July 2 of this year, Daniels filed suit in Geauga County (Ohio) Common Pleas Court demanding that Jon Husted, Ohio secretary of state, remove Obama's name from the ballot until Obama can prove the validity of his Social Security number.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/time_to_ask_obama_abut_his_social_security_number.html

 

George Washington’s SSN not authentic
By Dr. Conspiracy on September 10, 2012 in 2012 Presidential Election, Ballot Challenges, Lawsuits
I haven’t seen a social-security card for George Washington, but if one surfaced we can be sure that it’s a fake. There was no Social Security Administration in his time, and from that we may conclude that the Framers of the US Constitution did not have a requirement for a valid social-security number in mind when they wrote the Article II language on presidential eligibility.

Nevertheless, Ohio private investigator Susan Daniels filed suit in Ohio arguing that Barack Obama should be barred from the November presidential ballot because, she alleges, Obama used a fraudulent SSN.

Judge David L. Fuhry dismissed Daniels’ lawsuit, saying that the Ohio legislature never intended that the Secretary of State investigate candidate eligibility and indeed has a ministerial duty to put whoever the national political conventions nominate on the ballot. The social security issue is irrelevant.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/