Obvious Proof that Legalized Abortion Causes More Abortions

Well it hurts me deeply that you don't appreciate my posts but I actually do add useful information here and I keep the liars honest.

 

My palm met my face today.

Isn't it rather obvious that if something is legalized, that the particular something is more likely to occur?

Its like saying "if drugs are legalized, drug use will go up!". Duh.

 

It's not true. Morality laws cannot be enforced without a consensus of the population, and in the case of abortion, that consensus has never existed. No law can be enforced without the certainty of swift punishment for breaking the law, and that cannot exist for abortion. We can see from the implementation of alcohol prohibition laws, which caused more problems than they solved, that simply passing a law doesn't necessarily stop the action.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/12/world/12abortion.html

October 12, 2007
ROME, Oct. 11 — A comprehensive global study of abortion has concluded that abortion rates are similar in countries where it is legal and those where it is not, suggesting that outlawing the procedure does little to deter women seeking it.

Moreover, the researchers found that abortion was safe in countries where it was legal, but dangerous in countries where it was outlawed and performed clandestinely. Globally, abortion accounts for 13 percent of women’s deaths during pregnancy and childbirth, and there are 31 abortions for every 100 live births, the study said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2125518...h/t/abortion-rates-same-whether-legal-or-not/

Women are just as likely to get an abortion in countries where it is outlawed as they are in countries where it is legal, according to research published Friday.

In a study examining abortion trends from 1995 to 2003, experts also found that abortion rates are virtually equal in rich and poor countries, and that half of all abortions worldwide are unsafe.

The study was done by Gilda Sedgh of the Guttmacher Institute in the United States and colleagues from the World Health Organization. It was published in an edition of The Lancet medical journal devoted to maternal health.

“The legal status of abortion has never dissuaded women and couples, who, for whatever reason, seek to end pregnancy,” Beth Fredrick of the International Women’s Health Coalition in the U.S. said in an accompanying commentary.

 

At a very high speed hopefully and brought you back to your senses.

 

Neither does yours.

Thanks for playing.

 

I don't disagree, but MANY pro abortion posters here have said repeatedly that legalizing abortion REDUCES the number of abortions performed. Anyone with any common sense knows this is nonsense, yet they persist, so I posted this thread.

 

And yet as time goes on the abortion numbers are DROPPING? As evidenced in your own graph.

 

People are becoming aware that it is actually a homicide. Some women will kill the child in utero anyway, but others will respect the human life within them.

 

You can go on and delude yourself with your lies by ignoring the truth and reality. Fact remains that in places where attitudes toward abortion are liberal and health care ans social programs effective have a lower abortion rate that the places where ignorance and morality coercion is the approach.

 

"blah, blah, blah" You cannot prove that in the United States (really don't care about anywhere else) that legalized abortion reduces the number of abortions. It is clearly a lie as the data I posted shows.

 

You can deny reality all you want. You have not shown any correlation between legalization and abortion numbers and you were pretty hung up on correlation in an other thread. Now is your chance to show it, less hypocrisy is of no consequence to you. You have also not shown any reason why in the US it would be different than anywhere else.

 

So desperate you have to search internationally to dredge up nonsense to support your BS now eh? Typical,

 

Your data shows that the number of abortions increased it does not show why.

 

So hypocrisy it is then. Why is it nonsense when I bring up YOUR methods? Are you disowning that now? You kept that tirade up for a long time with stupidity ranging from tides and going to work to being adamant about correlation. Why is it that when you are asked for the VERY SAME THING you dodge?

 

"shreik shreik shreik", you really have nothing at all to contribute here do you?

 

Come now, why not provide the correlation instead of this inane drivel. Show everyone that you are capable of intelligent debate and are able to support your claims. Then constant dodging and evading only shows the opposite.

 

Everyone who matters knows my capabilities, I am not interested in what you think.

 

Everyone does know your capabilities here, that is why no one really expects you to be able to answer or post supporting facts.
It is a sad and pathetic dodge you are attempting, but that is not new either.

 

Well the number of people who have you on ignore says all that we need to know about you. Your opinion is completely meaningless.

 

Yes some of the intellectual elite here take exception to have their lies exposed. As such they rather add ignorance to their dishonesty.

 

yeah that's it!

 

Those that matter know well of your limited capabilities I am sure.

 

It's more nuanced than that. When alcohol was made illegal overall use did go down, but irresponsible use skyrocketed, not to mention organized crime. Which kind of use actually matters? In terms of this subject, which kind of abortion matters? Earlier is better. I find it hard to believe people really equate a blastocyst with a person.

It could also be better contraception. Taking oral contraceptives these days doesn't have as many side effects as before, when higher-than-necessary hormones doses were used. I hear condoms are also better in terms of comfort and reliability.

Does the data on abortion rates correlate with the opinion that abortion is homicide?

I'm not sure if it proves much without delving deeply into their methods. How do we know that the reporting before full legalization was reliable or comparable?

 

Insults are all you've got? Typical!

 

No insult intended .. proof of your capabilities has been well established.

Famous Whaler quote:

Human feces, Human cell, Human heart. By your logic each of those nouns is a human being.

There are many more of course.

What is worse is listening to you trying to defend such claims.

Are you still defending that one ?