Ocasio-Cortez declares VA ‘isn’t broken,’ already provides top-notch care

As usual the Trumpers are wrong, this time about the VA.
It is however great to see Trumpers whining endlessly and wringing
their small white hands over Ocasio-Cortez and literally anything she says.

 

Good to see you have absolutely no substance to your post. Can you at least elaborate to where "Trumpers" are wrong about the VA? Unless you are saying AOC is claiming that they VA "now" provides top notch care, thanks to Trump VA reform bill? Is that what you are shooting for?

 

I also said there may be other vets on this forum who think differently. I am speaking from personal experience, you on the other hand don't have a clue.

 

Beware of the VA.

"The video shows the veteran calling for help six times before he goes unconscious while gasping for air. State records show nursing home staff found Dempsey unresponsive at 5:28 am. It took almost an hour for the staff to call 911 at 6:25a.m.

When a different nurse does respond, she fails to check any of his vital signs. Nuckles says she would have reprimanded the nurse for the way she responded to Dempsey. She called the video “sick.”

When nurses had difficulty getting Dempsey’s oxygen machine operational during, you can hear Nuckles and others laughing."
WXIA, Hidden camera tells true story of how veteran died after calling for help, gasping for air, The nursing home didn't want you to see the video., Andy Pierrotti, WXIA 11:33 AM. EST November 14, 2017.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/investigat...er-calling-for-help-gasping-for-air/491689954

 

I dont know if you are a vet and dont care

The VA should be limited to service related injuries only

Retirees without service related issues can enrole into Tricare

Non retirees should have health insurance for service related care only

 

The nay sayer's opinion as do others varies widely. Most are good or very good, a few are not.

 

Thank you for your service. Im glad to hear you are getting the care you deserve. Others have not had the same experience.

 

Nothing is perfect, Doofenshmirtz. Thank you for your thank you for my service.

Stopping the wars that have killed 500,000 and cost $6 trillion would go a long way to balancing the budget and giving better health care.

 

Wrong. G.I. benefits are part of the incentive to enlist. Felons in prison make more in wages than a PFC. It's back pay.

 

Good, I am not going to lose any sleep on whether you believe me or not.

That's your opinion in which you are entitled to. This country doesn't do enough for it's veterans as far as I am concerned.

 

I agree 100%. I would opt out of supporting these unnecessary wars, but the IRS would take my home and business away if I don't pay up.

 

The VA is a well documented national disgrace. The cover up of the scandal is finally being exposed.

"The troubles in Bedford are part of a larger concern for the VA’s care of elderly veterans across the country. This year, the Globe and USA TODAY revealed that internal ratings showed 60 VA nursing homes – nearly half of the agency’s nursing homes nationwide – received the lowest ranking for quality as of Dec. 31, 2017. (Among the homes rated lowest for quality in the first quarter this year, only 11, including Bedford, also got one star ratings for surprise inspections.)

The agency released the ratings to the public only after the two news organizations asked questions about them.

Three months earlier, the VA gave one star to just 13 of its nursing homes nationwide, including Bedford. The number of worst-rated facilities increased to 60 when the VA changed the ratings to compare VA nursing homes with private facilities rather than just with each other.

Under the new system, Bedford rated worse than private nursing home averages on 10 of 11 key quality indicators last year, including rates of bedsores and residents in serious pain. Across the country, more than 100 VA nursing homes scored worse than private nursing homes on a majority of indicators."
USA TODAY, Bedsores, neglect, alleged abuse: Inside low-rated VA nursing homes
Donovan Slack, USA TODAY, and Andrea Estes, The Boston Globe Published 6:00 a.m. ET Sept. 4, 2018 | Updated 6:17 p.m. ET Sept. 4, 2018.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...roubles-care-low-rated-facilities/1148005002/

 

That isnt because Trump cares, it is because the DOCTORS network trying desperately to steal the work and get paid big bucks from the DOD. Nothing more than Greed, of course they will offer healthcare cheap at first, then, once they break the backs of the VA, force all the employees off of Govt pay (good pay and good benefits) then those same doctors will hire cheap labor, force the govt to pay them millions and give crap care to the very VA people that help protect them in the first place.
This is nothing new, first it started with Big businesses, that later sucked up their competition and or forced them out with cheap labor or via moving their companies oversea's. No one would ever think of doing it to the VETS until McConnell, and the NEOCON's got a hold of office on their mass lies, and propaganda.

If anything they did good for the people were true, it would be all over twitter, but they have all, including their news networks of Brietbart, been banned. FOX news is trying to say they are protesting twitter by not posting, but reality is, everytime they posted Sarah Slanders, Trump, Coulter, Or Kelly Ann Conway type of Propaganda it would get slammed with THOUSANDS, 30k 50k responses from people who want honesty. Not alternative facts.

Just like NOW, Congress has oversight, period ! Not Trump, not the Supreme court. There are LAWS of the land and Trump and his crew of misfits are trying to change it. No longer can most of them post in real time on twitter, or facbook, they have to hide and find an outlet still willing to pass along their garbage. The MMS media does it for the ratings, and the disbelief of what is being put forth as total comedy, which it is... If not just outright Regime propaganda, lies, and much more.
There are still thousand of posters, especially on sites like this trolling to spread the false narrative, yep, your right, clintons suck, so did Obama giving trillions to the banks. Does this give Trump, Congress, or anyone a reason to track them down ? Why, they are no longer in office, we must worry about how it is being destroyed now. If it was BAD as Trump said 6 years ago that Obama should raise rates, and he shouldn't do QE1,2,and 3. Why would it be the thing to do now in what Trump calls the BEST ECONOMY EVER. If it is so great, why does he need lower rate and QE ?

Everything he does is exactly what he bashed years ago. But it gets much much worse, he is using the PPT to purchase stocks, bonds, and offering to let the FED purchase stocks. Why ? So that the market goes up, it is important to him, not because it helps the people, which it doesnt. But to Trump, it is the last bullet or one of them that makes him feel and as he thinks, look good. A HIGH DOW and NASDAQ does not equal a good economy, in fact, it hides the bad economy.

On top of all that, the GOVT is lying about Inflation, there is no doubt, and proof is there that the avg. person purchasing power is diminshing quickly, you can find it right on the St. Louis FED site. About 6% per year, YoY and you cant hide it. You can put out a CPI and state inflation is 1%. That doesnt include anything the avg. person has to deal with on a daily basis.
It is sad to know, that the posts on this site, are supported from sites like Cato, Mises, Koch family foundation and all support the Ponzi Scheme FED policy that takes from every working class person and funnels that money up. Mostly to very very very Wealthy Jewish familes. All linked to Wall Street, Big biotech, the FED, big business. All very greedy corps. and it wont end until this REGIME, Monarchy is replaced.
As usual, you can expect a bunch of name calling, or posts that deliberatly support conservatism to every HONEST post made on this site. Many are paid from the various institues to post as such, once they lose their jobs, they cant write the truth due to dsclaimers they sign.
And then there is always the retired white guy in the SOUTH that is still waving his flag, sipping his beer, and will forever be a racist and bigot. Once a Dixiecrat, not a republican. Manipulated then, gullible and manipulated now. But in all his glory for dixie, he is doing just fine and could also care less about you.

 

The VA is a well documented national victory. It compares very well to the best private hospitals. Nearly 30000 die of infections in the private hospitals yearly. Vets overwhelmingly give high marks to the VA.

This is the second time I have seen something on nursing homes. That is elder care, and elder care nationally, public and private, is a disgrace.

 

If you're not a Vet under VA care, then you simply don't know what you're talking about. Some of us are telling you what we have experienced - not some drive by hit piece that you read some where.

 

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is correct, the VA is not broken, it is doing great. But that is only because of the Trump Administration. We got Veterans Choice & Accountability passed. “President Trump deserves a lot of credit.” Dan Caldwell, Concerned Veterans of America


Oops

 

My father in law is a retired Marine and has a lot of medical issues associated with Agent Orange. For emergencies, I have no complaints. When it comes to everything else, its a waiting game. They do deserve better.

 

Government healthcare is ultimately a "waiting game".

"SEMINOLE, Fla. -- Staff at a Veterans Affairs hospital in Florida left the body of a veteran in a shower for nine hours after the veteran died and proper pickup procedures to the morgue weren’t followed.

The Tampa Bay Times on Sunday reported that an internal investigation concluded that staff at the Bay Pines VA Healthcare System failed to provide appropriate post-mortem care to the veteran’s body.

The investigative report said that leaving the body unattended for so long increased the chance of decomposition."

"Some hospice staff “demonstrated a lack of concern, attention and respect” for the veteran, according to the investigative report.

The investigation also found that staff failed to check a 24-hour nursing report that would indicate whether the death was reported properly, and staff failed to update a nursing organizational chart that hampered efforts to determine who was in charge.
CBS News, LiveReport: Florida VA hospital left deceased veteran in shower room for 9 hours, DECEMBER 11, 2016.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report...-deceased-veteran-in-shower-room-for-9-hours/

 

Congress is responsible, and Trump was forced to sign it against his will.

 

I am a vet, but I do not have rely on the VA for care. The scandal of VA healthcare is well documented now. No one is asserting that government healthcare is always negligent and deadly, but anyone who chooses to rely on government care needs to review the record. The VA is now being exposed for what it is.

"OIG investigators corroborated virtually every major allegation of wrongdoing submitted by the two whistle-blowers. Nevertheless, the report and congressional briefing papers contain passages that appear to criticize Foote and his credibility, emphasizing that "the whistle-blower did not provide us with a list of 40 patient names." The passage referred to VA patients Foote said died while awaiting care in Phoenix.

According to the House committee, OIG staffers acknowledged during a briefing that the sentence jabbing Foote was not in the original draft of the Phoenix report but was inserted in response to comments by VA administrators during a review.

In interviews and a written rebuttal, Foote said the portion of the report about him is "false and misleading" because he and other whistle-blowers provided 24 names to inspectors and explained where in VA records to identify 16 more.

Another part of the VA report acknowledged that Foote had supplied at least 17 names and that others could not be traced because documentation had been destroyed by VA employees."
USA TODAY, Report on Phoenix VA deaths raises questions, By Dennis Wagner, Arizona Republic Published 9:44 a.m. ET Sept. 10, 2014.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-phoenix-va-deaths-raises-questions/15381363/

 

Which ignores the fact that the VA is much worse than the private hospitals.

"The troubles in Bedford are part of a larger concern for the VA’s care of elderly veterans across the country. This year, the Globe and USA TODAY revealed that internal ratings showed 60 VA nursing homes – nearly half of the agency’s nursing homes nationwide – received the lowest ranking for quality as of Dec. 31, 2017. (Among the homes rated lowest for quality in the first quarter this year, only 11, including Bedford, also got one star ratings for surprise inspections.)

The agency released the ratings to the public only after the two news organizations asked questions about them.

Three months earlier, the VA gave one star to just 13 of its nursing homes nationwide, including Bedford. The number of worst-rated facilities increased to 60 when the VA changed the ratings to compare VA nursing homes with private facilities rather than just with each other.

Under the new system, Bedford rated worse than private nursing home averages on 10 of 11 key quality indicators last year, including rates of bedsores and residents in serious pain. ***Across the country, more than 100 VA nursing homes scored worse than private nursing homes on a majority of indicators."***
USA TODAY, Bedsores, neglect, alleged abuse: Inside low-rated VA nursing homes
Donovan Slack, USA TODAY, and Andrea Estes, The Boston Globe Published 6:00 a.m. ET Sept. 4, 2018 | Updated 6:17 p.m. ET Sept. 4, 2018. (*** mine)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...roubles-care-low-rated-facilities/1148005002/

The VA system is a national disgrace.

 

Trump's reforms are good, but the VA, is government healthcare - government always resists reform. The VA will never be "doing great".

 

The VA is doing better than 2 1/2 years ago like less waiting time to see a doctor but there is still the problem of veterans abusing the system, fraud and VA shrinks and civilians who never served telling veterans that they are "damaged goods."

 

I agree up to a point

Service related injuries should have lifetime care

But 3 years active duty should not mean lifetime free healthcare