Ocean water older than the Sun...

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  1. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    If water and other building blocks of life as we know it exists across the Universe, and all living things derive their start from this, then all life in the Universe is related. I'm thinking the word 'extraterrestrial' at some point in the future will be discarded since all life forms relatively to someone else are extraterrestrials...including us. When we discover life elsewhere, they will be given a proper name instead of extraterrestrial...
     
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    No it doesn't.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you think prayer alone will work. Thanks for the input.
     
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    Ummm. No.

    It doesn't need more research because it's irrelevant.

    Cancer needs more research.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's exactly what the Democrats said when they killed our space program!

    What they, and apparently you, don't realize is that science and technology are like a pyramid that builds upon itself, not like a individual tree that grows straight up. Because of both military and space research, we have LASERs, LEDs, computers and cordless power tools. All with civil and medical applications.

    http://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/tech_benefits.html

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/07/14/space.spinoff.medicine/index.html?eref=rss_health

    https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/80660main_ApolloFS.pdf
    Shocking heart
    monitors
    NASA’s Apollo
    technology was used
    by Medrad to develop
    the AID implantable
    automatic pulse
    generator, which
    monitors the heart
    continuously,
    recognizes the onset
    of a heart attack and
    delivers a corrective
    electrical shock. The
    pulse generator is, in effect, a miniaturized version of
    the defibrillator used by emergency squads and hospitals
    to restore rhythmic heartbeat after fibrillation. Once
    implanted, it needs no specially trained personnel or
    additional equipment and consists of a microcomputer,
    a power source and two electrodes that sense heart
    activity. Spinoff 1980

    Apollo sets the pace
    St. Jude Medical’s Cardiac
    Rhythm Management
    Division used Apollo
    technology to develop a
    programmable pacemaker
    system. A physician can
    communicate with a
    patient’s pacemaker by
    means of wireless telemetry signals transmitted through the
    communicating head held over the patient’s chest. Where
    earlier pacemakers delivered a fixed type of stimulus once
    implanted, this system enables “fine tuning” of the device to
    best suit the patient’s changing needs. Spinoff 1980
    Easier treatments for dialysis patients
    Technology originally developed under NASA contract by
    Marquardt Corporation, a chemical process was developed to
    remove toxic waste from used dialysis fluid. This discovery
    led to the development of a kidney dialysis machine using
    “sorbent” dialysis, a method of removing urea from human
    blood by treating a dialysate solution. The process saves
    electricity and gives the patient greater freedom of
    movement during treatment. Spinoff 1992

    Cool ideas from Apollo
    NASA’s Cool Suit technology — originally designed to
    keep astronauts cool during launch using a water circulation
    system — is now used by hazardous materials workers,
    armored vehicle crews, firefighters and NASCAR drivers.
    Multiple sclerosis patients and children born without sweat
    glands and a disorder that causes extreme sun sensitivity
    wear built-in water circulation vests that provide them cool
    comfort. A surgical personal cooling system has also been
    developed for medical personnel working in hot operating
    room environments. And, horse saddle pads made with this
    technology can lower the horse’s temperature by 4 to 6
    degrees. Another innovation includes a liquid-cooled bra that
    aids in the detection of cancer using infrared thermography.
    By increasing the temperature difference between normal
    and cancerous tissue through cooling, differentiation
    becomes more apparent on thermograph. Spinoff 1979, 1982
    and 1989
    Precise prescription doses
    Under one of the earliest contracts awarded during the
    Apollo lunar landing program, Parker Hannifin Corporation
    developed and produced equipment for controlling the flow
    of propellants into the mammoth engines of the Saturn
    Moonbooster. Today, Parker is supplying the huge valves
    that control propellant flow from the Space Shuttle’s external
    fuel tank to the engines of the Shuttle Orbiter as well as the
    “peanut valve,” named for its small size. In 1977, NASA and
    Parker created the Programmable Implantable Medication
    System (PIMS) for continuous, computer-directed delivery
    of precisely metered medication — insulin, for example —
    within a patient’s body. Spinoff 1988
     
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    Recent studies of the Unconscious mind tell us that we all come back again after we die out of this visit.

    Our Conscious mind does not get direct contact with the Unconscious mind, and we are today unaware of the on going presence of the Unconscious mind in ourselves, and the Collective Unconscious mind of all the people added to together.

    But the evidence says that our Unconscious is very active in our lives.
    It mean we do not actually die.
     
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    Much work has been done already in the study of the Unconscious mind.

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    Over the past two decades of neurological research, it has become increasingly clear that the way we experience the world--our perception, behavior, memory, and social judgment--is largely driven by the mind's subliminal processes and not by the conscious ones, as we have long believed. As in the bestselling The Drunkard’s Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives, Leonard Mlodinow employs his signature concise, accessible explanations of the most obscure scientific subjects to unravel the complexities of the subliminal mind. In the process he shows the many ways it influences how we misperceive our relationships with family, friends, and business associates; how we misunderstand the reasons for our investment decisions; and how we misremember important events--along the way, changing our view of ourselves and the world around us.
     
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    our longevity is short only as "sentient" combination of atoms, arent we all a just a combination of water and minerals...when we die we're recycled...
     
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    We'll never really know will we...until we perform the ultimate experiment of dying? But since we don't know leads me to believe that post-death does not provide any new information...
     
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    The matter which makes up the human body cannot disappear, therefore, in some form or fashion, we are recycled. But humans are being recycled a million times faster than water and rocks...
     
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    If Mars still has a great amount of frozen water ice just under the Martian surface....Human's could Terraform Mars over hundreds of years to make it more Earth like.

    With FUSION GENERATORS....Humans could generate massive EM Fields to protect areas of Mars that would once again have water and life.

    It is almost certain that Mars at one time had life.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    its perspective, you can see us as human or in the bigger galactic picture we're just an animated collection of water and minerals that bind together temporarily, our parts never die they're billions of years old....
     
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    It would seem that there has been hundreds of ocassions where Alien DNA or Primitive Alien Life has been and continues to be carried to Earth upon and within Asteroids and Meterorites.

    There also seems to be Life Forms within very high in altitude areas of Earth's atmosphere.

    Funny enough...Carl Sagan predicted such life existed within the upper clouds of Jupiter but it would seem such life exists in Earth's higher levels of atmosphere.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    We can...RIGHT NOW....use Genetic Engineering to extend Human Life by an average of 50%.

    Problem is if everyone were to get Longevity Enhancement....we would soon over run the planet.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Proof? Amino acids aren't life.
     
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    Well....all Extraterrestrial means is..."Coming from beyond Terra...or Earth."

    So the word is an apt description for anything be it life or material that is not of Earth or Terra.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Well....if you take the time to Google....Evidence of Alien Life and DNA deposited on Earth from Meterorites....you will find yourself a HUGE number of sites detailing out such events.

    As I have posted on this forum many times.......

    .....because I used to...I am retired now....used to lead a Team of Members of the U.S. Military as well I have had members of the SAS as well I chose to work with my Team for JOBS....these JOBS on a few rare occasions were of such a nature that a NEED TO KNOW basis was necessary to complete such JOBS.

    Because of these small in number....NEED TO KNOW....ocassions....I now KNOW...not think or wish or contemplate or hope or wonder.....BUT KNOW WITH 100% CERTAINTY....that Human Beings are NOT the only Space Faring Intelligent Life Forms or Species in the Universe.

    I wish I DID NOT KNOW this....as such knowledge is...unsettling to say the least....but it doesn't change the fact I KNOW.

    And the fact remains...people are NOT ready.

    AboveAlpha....p.s...this is the worse kept secret in History.
     
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    All those sites also say the Moon landing was a hoax and the CIA killed JFK for LBJ.
     
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    I will give you a NAME.

    Astronaut GORDON COOPER.

    Google it as Astronaut Gordon Cooper letter to U.N. about Alien Life visiting Earth.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Oh....Moon Landings were very much REAL as well they are IMPOSSIBLE TO HOAX....as well the MOB ordered the hits on both J.F.K. and Bobby because of their Dad used his Rum Running Connections to stuff ballot boxes to get JFK elected.

    In return the MOB wanted CUBA back.

    Then Bobby went after the MOB setting the table for the assasinations.

    LBJ...although a U.S. President who had a strong drive to set the course for Equal Rights in the U.S....was also an IDIOT FOR A PRESIDENT as he Micromanaged Vietnam to the point several of my Family members are DEAD because LBJ would not let the U.S. Military Fight.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Again, not evidence. So Cooper had two UFO (unidentified flying object) sightings in the 1950s. I've had one. That still doesn't constitute evidence of alien life or "alien DNA" as you claim exists.
     
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    Let me explain this to you.

    No one....will be allowed to come forward with any hard data that they will be allowed to use as PROOF.

    Still...when such evidence does exist a different method is used to discredit and create a CIRCUS AND WACKO ENVIRONMENT that such people will be placed in and classified as a part of.

    I NEVER wanted to know what I now know...but I do...so I deal with it.

    But anyone...and I mean...ANYONE....with just an hour of time can Google up old DC Newspaper Headlines...and read or watch video's of a multitude of FAMOUS U.S. ASTRONAUTS....including BUZZ ALDRIN....where they detail not only were the Gemini Program NASA Space Craft followed and observed by E.T.....but so were all Apollo Missions.


    "Please be advised that there is a Santa Claus," astronaut James Lovell radioed to NASA on December 25, 1968 during the Apollo 8 mission. He most likely was not talking about Saint Nick, according to ufologists.

    Astronauts see and report on UFOs so often that as early as 1963, during the Mercury missions, NASA came up with a code word for a UFO sighting Santa Claus. If an astronaut saw something he couldn't recognize, he was to say "Santa Claus" instead of "UFO."

    There were so many rumors that UFOs were seen during the infamous Apollo 11 moon landing, that even Ripley's Believe It Or Not! was reporting them in the 1970's. Although not a scientific journal by any means, they can be seen as an accurate portrait of the national subconscious.

    And NASA didn't help themselves by losing some tape of the Apollo 11 transmissions. Although now seen as part of a cover-up by NASA's bosses (the US government), it was most likely due to human error. These transmissions include an exchange that the astronauts saw huge UFOs on the dark side of the moon.

    These transmissions were monitored by amateur ham radio operators, who were the ones who most likely started the rumors of UFOs seen by astronauts. In 2006, Buzz Aldrin claims that he certainly saw UFOs. Neil Armstrong has also said that he saw UFOs, but would never go into detail about them although he hinted that the CIA was behind why he would not go into detail.

    There certainly are a lot of strange lights and metal objects recorded on film or photograph by NASA missions from rockets to the space shuttle. NASA is pretty good about letting these images go on public record. They are usually a bit blurry and indistinct. Some have an odd elegance to them like visual art. Film taken of a large metal sphere by the shuttle Atlantis looks more like a nature documentary of a bird flying in the sky than of a large UFO hovering over the Earth's atmosphere.

    Astronauts are not usually known to be people who give in to fears or intricate practical jokes. They also are usually not prone to the visual problems and migraines that can cause auras, which often include flashing lights. Astronauts are usually very outspoken that something is out there, although they are usually not conclusive as to whether UFOs exist or not.

    One astronaut who does was on the Mercury missions, Gordon "Gordo" Cooper, who even addressed the UN about UFOs in 1985. Thankfully, Cooper thinks the UFOs are intelligent and open to peaceful negotiations. (November, 1988, issue (Vol 1, No. 3) issue of UFO Universe magazine; Condor Books 351 West 54th St., New York, N.Y. 10019] )That certainly must have been a relief to hear to the badgered UN delegates.

    LINK....http://www.sciences360.com/index.php/is-there-any-evidence-of-ufo-sightings-by-astronauts-3-20821/

    Various E.T. races mine H3....Helium 3....from the Lunar Surface as H3 accumulates on the Moon and not on Earth as Earth's EM-Field reflects the H3 generated by our Sun from impacting our Planet but the Moon has no EM-Field.

    H3 is used in Thermonuclear Reactions in FUSION REACTORS.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Without a magnetic field you will have a hard time creating a stable atmosphere...and this means a magnetic field around the entire planet.
     
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    Our water and mineral parts were never alive so they can't die but their animation can stop. I guess it's no different than a glacier melting into the ocean when 'humans' die we just melt into the Earth and atmosphere...

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    We will over-populate the planet no matter genetic engineering...

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    And if you lived on Mars extraterrestrial would mean anything from Earth. If we're all extraterrestrial then we're all related...
     
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    The standard conspiracy theorist excuse for a lack of proof.
    Thanks, I will.

    Interesting to see your true personality come out here.
     

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