OK....your DEAD....now what?

From my bible studies as a Christian, I will be asleep awaiting the first resurrection. At that time, I will be given a spiritual body. Those unsaved, will be asleep until the second resurrection to be judged and destroyed.

 

I think it was on the history channel who had either one long documentary or a series of one hour episodes on reincarnation. The people they had on those shows were always you average person in previous lives. The show took these people back to where they remembered they were from and never been to before. Some remembered and could describe rooms in a house or a barn before they actually seen them. Some places had changed tremendously, but a trip to the local library or office showed what some of these folks remembered way back when in a previous life was real back then.

It was very interesting. Now it was just a show, but none of them that were on it was someone famous in the past. Just a farmers wife, a lowly soldier, a merchant and the like.

 

A being has a Genetic Code.
It lives in the blood of the people who are alive, even after he, himself, may have died the first dead.

As dead person, you wait to see if you are resurrected again for another life with the living.
The "second death" is when your type of person went extinct, as happened to Neanderthal man.

Gen 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

 

I'm about 80% sure we simply cease to exist, which in a way I find more terrifying than eternal torture. I've known several smart people who claim to have seen ghosts though. I've certainly never seen anything supernatural. I'd like to if it existed though, since I'd rather the Christian's be right and go to hell and have them go to heaven than all of us cease to exist. Of course if I saw a "ghost," I'm not sure if I'd really know what it represented or felt.

Well nobody deserves what Christians say people get. Good people don't deserve heaven because they're not THAT good. Bad people don't deserve hell, because nobody is bad enough to deserve eternal torture. Their criteria, faith, is also stupid because it's more an index of gullibility than being moral or effective. The very fact that faith is so central is only indicative that it's all fake, and was simply used to control gullible people by those in power. Heaven is an impossible state for most personalities, and much of what would comprise heaven includes things we were told not to do.

Bottom line is that either heaven and hell don't exist as stated, or your god is not just.

To play devil's advocate for a moment: It's not so much that they believe god forces people to be bad (although I do recall some passages that suggest otherwise, for example how god "hardened the heart" of the Pharoah in the old testament), but rather that he is so all-knowing can predict everything you'll do. So you do make the choice, he simply knows what you'll choose before you do. On the other hand, why would he judge his imperfect creations that he knows are destined to fail? It's like kicking a dog for not understanding calculus, and then adding Jesus to the equation is like forgiving the dog if he randomly chooses the right corner to urinate in (analogy to being born in a place with the right religion, and being capable of faith).

 

Ego consciousness is just allowing one's ego to be the active personality factor among the other six also available.
The Myers/Briggs Type Test uses each of the eight archetypes as one of the driving factors in our daily thinking.

What Campbell falsely attributed to this Ego Consciousness idea ought be seen as an awareness of the genetically reproduced Unconscious mind inside us all.
Truth exists in that Unconsciousness, genetically stored and waiting our return as born again living persons.

The Unconscious mind REMEMBERS ancient human activity, back millions if year no doubt.
It understand the world and our sleepy Conscious place in it, generation by generation.

 

Sure, sure, sure,...

But what about the whole species of mankind?
You are alive, because the genes held the information to make you what you are.
Those same genes are still inside other peoples' blood.

The Gene Pool will make you again, mentally speaking, as your mind (soul) will again come back.

 

People need to read about the Unconscious Mind and discover that it is alive and working even before our own Consciousness is thinking about decisions to be made.
This part of our mind is reproduced again in the future.
But right now, as was with the Subconscious mind before Freud, we do not notice the activities of unconscious thinking.



This book was written by a hard science Physicist guy who is very well known and has worked on projects with Hawkins.
He explains how, thru MRI tests, the Unconscious mind can be noticed as ruling over us all.

 

... but you do believe after you die, that human life will continue.
Right?

The issue is not whether you die and are forgotten.
The issue is whether the species will survive.

Your genes will be carried forward.'
In the future, you will be recreated from your own genetic code, which then will be inside the living people of that time.

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So you don't believe in extinctions?

 

... no "life after death experiences?"

 

AboveAlpha, I will tell you what will happen to you if you die.

Hope you have not applied for cremation.

Then, if no funeral arrangements were made by you, the best is to bury your body underground and plant a papaya tree over it, so you finally will be productive, because your ideas of multiverses are not only ridiculous but a waste of data storage in these forums.

You have a complete misunderstanding of what the implication of an afterlife means. You might try to explain it with scientific means, however, all of the different kind of possible existences belong to a sole and unique universe with multiple or diverse frequencies.

Think about it.

 

In the "end," which comes when we have evolved so as to recognize and interact with our Unconscious mind, we will be judged by the very thoughts and memories we have had in the past.

Jewish verses from Rev 20:12

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, (The Unconscious mind), which is the book of life, (the Collective Unconscious memories genetically stored inside mankind): and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, (Rev 5:1-5), according to their works, (which they, themselves, remember).

 

God's plan is that men find Truth and learn to love with the Reality which is him.
Man's Plan is to live forever as a species.

Together, the two plans work well, if man will see and use Truth as the light into the future.

 

For one thing, you said you don't care about issues of survival as a species, just your own earthly and momentary pleasures:

"I'd much rather spend my energy focusing on enjoying the life I have now rather than speculating on what life or lack thereof I will have when Im dead."

 

... think about Extinction, and think about genetic reconstruction of your mind in the future.
That is science too.

 

Now the Buddhist believe in a cycle of birth, death, rebirth, death rebirth and on and on until one attains enlightenment. You may have something with the unconscious mind being passed on in the future. Perhaps in the form of Karma or not depending on one's definition which is taught is always with us from life to life or rebirth.

People will not remember their past lives, but it is there in probably what you refer to as the unconscious mind. Passing through the different stages of meditation can bring the knowledge of past lives lived to a person. It can also lead to the end of suffering by cutting loose of attachments or cravings.

Perhaps it is the spark of life that is passed on into the future and perhaps that is what is reborn. That spark or whatever one wants to call it continues on through many lifetimes until enlightenment is finally achieved and the cycle of suffering, birth, death and rebirth is broken. Buddhist believe life itself is suffering.

 

Remember that many ancient societies have disappeared.
Those kind of people died, and they never were born again.
They went extinct as a society.

All those people who believed in mythical gods disappeared and they went extinct.

 

Those civilizations may have waned, but their ancestors are still among us.

 

So, I'm dead now what?

Well, I haven't put much thought into what I'm going to do after life.

I'm still somewhat stuck on a concept that upon death I'm going to have a choice to reorganize my life like its a structure. Make a change and then the structure shifts into a new place, like moving a block tower one block over to a new tower (move a middle block and all of the blocks above it must shift into place to maintain the tower), and after making the change, and as the new lifeline is shifting into place, you get to live your life over again in person only it's a little bit different this time.

I might do this a few times until I got sick of it as visions of events from other lives started bleeding over into the current arrangement of events thus spoiling the surprise. Then I'd be in a desperate spot learning the lesson of how some things are out of my control or don't even happen despite of when I get a hint about something beforehand and, after trying to make things perfect, learn how I don't need to go crazy and change every little thing. Do you really want to live an entire lifetime over one regret? I think not! You learn: I don't need to change anything anymore.

Then I'd be looking to stop doing that. No really if you have the opportunity to change your life don't do it you'll be sorry!

The only positive thing I see about doing that is making friends you may have missed the first time around. Who knows, if there's an after life there may be a lot more friendly people waiting for you on the other side than you'd realize by only considering one lifetime.

 

Did you watch the video?

 

How do you know I've procreated?

 

On the other hand, perhaps you end up as a ghost.

Perhaps the full on intelligent self of the person, perhaps just an echo of the person as they were at one point in their life.

And then you're stuck existing in a 4 to 30 foot area because you can't move from that point without energy and humans just weren't smart enough to figure out you existed and that they could create some form of ghost lamps that let you wander down the road.

And then maybe you fizzle out and cease to exist after a few weeks because the recording of yourself degraded.

Or maybe you live to see the Sun devour the Earth, and then after the collapse into a White Dwarf you're left free falling in space. Or perhaps gravity pulls you into the center of the star and you remain there 'til the end of the Universe or something.