Okay....now that he is President.

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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Millions of Trump supporters voted against Clinton because the RW propaganda painted her as a "banking whore" and voted for Trump because he was going to stick it to the establishment and the bankers and drain the swamp.

    And donald is loading up his government with Goldman Sachs bankers and wall street billionaires.

    Congratulations. You've been duped and conned by a charlatan.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the polls are all rigged!!!!! its a rigged system!!!! its soo unfair!!!

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    Yes he does. His speech said exactly what I wanted to hear.
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are correct about that.

    And 54% looked at Trump's name on election day and said, "No thanks."

    Interesting.
     
  5. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    54% of the country looked and donald/Pense on the ballot on election day and said, "no thanks."
     
  6. Hedgology

    Hedgology Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that is interesting, because Trump was sworn in as the 45th President today.

    It's almost as if he won the race he was supposed to be participating in; the Race to 270; the goal everyone who passed basic civics class knows Presidential candidates are supposed to meet.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Banking whore??? I dont know about that but she was a money whore and a power whore. There is no doubt the nation dodged a bullet when she wasnt elected.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes that it interesting. You brought up the fact that 52% looked at Clinton and said no thanks.

    The fact is that 54% looked at donald and said no thanks.

    Will the right finally accept that almost 3 million more Americans voted for Clinton and Trump has no mandate to do anything?

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    Ask the guy who posted it.

    You're worried about a "money whore" and you voted for donald? LMFAO!!!!

    Congratulations. You've been duped and conned by a charlatan.
     
  9. Hedgology

    Hedgology Well-Known Member

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    She is a banking whore, but she is an all-around whore. There isn't anything that she hasn't done for money.

    Not too many Charlatans go out of their way to tell everyone that the system is rigged and have two establishment parties collaborate against his defeat.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're worried about a money whore and you voted for donald? LMFAO!!

    Congratulations. You've been duped and conned by a charlatan.

    Charlatans will tell people anything to get what they want. They tend to be pathological liars.


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    "I finished" the controversy about where President Barack Obama was born.

    “My opponent has no child care plan."

    Says Hillary Clinton has "not answered a single question" about her immigration plan.

    The number of illegal immigrants "could be 3 million. It could be 30 million."
    Donald Trump is wrong that 'inner-city crime is reaching record levels'

    Says the U.S. election system is "rigged."

    Says Barack Obama "founded ISIS. I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton."

    "Hillary Clinton says she wants to, ‘raise taxes on the middle class.’ "

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    On gift taking, "Bob McDonnell took a fraction of what (Tim) Kaine took."

    Says Ted Cruz "never denied" his father was photographed with Lee Harvey Oswald.

    "We don't know anything about Hillary in terms of religion. Now, she's been in the public eye for years and years, and yet there's no — there's nothing out there."

    Says Hillary Clinton "has even deleted this record of total support (for the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement) from her book."

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    "I wanted to keep it private, because I don't think it's anybody's business if I want to send money to the vets."

    It "is Hillary Clinton's agenda" to "release the violent criminals from jail. She wants them all released."

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    Says Ted Cruz’s father "was with Lee Harvey Oswald" before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

    "Frankly, (Hillary Clinton) doesn’t do very well with women."

    The 2016 federal omnibus spending bill "funds illegal immigrants coming in and through your border, right through Phoenix."

    Says that when Michelle Fields "found out that there was a security camera, and that they had her on tape, all of a sudden that story changed."

    "Out of 67 counties (in Florida), I won 66, which is unprecedented. It's never happened before."

    "I don't know anything about David Duke."

    Says Ted Cruz "said I was in favor in Libya. I never discussed that subject."

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    A Trump television ad shows Mexicans swarming over "our southern border."

    President Barack Obama "wants to take in 250,000 (people) from Syria."

    Says crime statistics show blacks kill 81 percent of white homicide victims.

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    The federal government is sending refugees to states with governors who are "Republicans, not to the Democrats."

    The Trans-Pacific Partnership "was designed for China to come in, as they always do, through the back door and totally take advantage of everyone."

    "I never said that" Marco Rubio was Mark Zuckerberg’s personal senator.

    Says Bernie Sanders is going to "tax you people at 90 percent."


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    Says to Hillary Clinton, "You heard what I said about (the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal), and all of a sudden you were against it."

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    Says Hillary Clinton’s energy agenda "will cost the U.S. economy over $5 trillion"

    Says top Clinton advisers "were pressing" birther movement stories "very hard."

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    Says Hillary Clinton is "proposing to print instant work permits for millions of illegal immigrants to come in and take everybody's jobs, including low-income African-Americans."

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    Under President Barack Obama, income levels and unemployment numbers "are worse now than just about ever" for African-Americans.


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  11. Hedgology

    Hedgology Well-Known Member

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    The point is that there is only one rule in determining the President of the United States. You're free to interrept election outcomes anyway you like, but anyone else is free to do the same.

    Yes, majority of the country voted for someone else other than Clinton; majority of the country voted for someone else other than Trump. However, only one of them became President; and it wasn't Clinton.


    He has a mandate; he is the President of the United States.
     
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    Well his street cred is pretty good, so with him in charge of the economy you'll all soon be as rich as him..:)
    Wiki- "Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in May 1968 with a Bachelor of Science degree in economics"
     
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    I voted for Donald? I don't think I did. I wish I would have if I knew it would have upset this many person.

    I'm more worried about Clinton's public and private persona; in other words, don't tell the plebs what you think, otherwise you won't be able to rip them off. Yep, she'll do.

    Well, I have no interest in going through these claims to make sure these PolitiFact claims are correct because they have no baring on my cause to keep Hillary away from the Presidency.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not according to the common understanding of the term.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We no, the point *you* brought up is the percentage of people who voted against the candidate. Do you need me to quote your post to remind you?

    And the fact is that 54% of the country looked and donald/Pense on the ballot on election day and said, "no thanks."

    That is no mandate for radical change.
     
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    which only proves to the world that when it comes to Presidential elections, the USA is not a Democracy.

    we are the only 1st World nation on Earth that doesn't have democratic elections for its leader.

    Trump won 46% of the vote, but is still the President. Gross.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you supported the guy who ripped off thousands with his fake university and just paid $25 million to shut them 'em.

    Hey, good call.

    Good for you.
     
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    Wow , what a beautiful day! I don't think you could knock the smile off of my face with a brick.
     
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    Hedgology Well-Known Member

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    Yes, people who do wrong pay the price. That is a function of our Justice System. I mean, it's not as if someone can break Federal Records Act regulations and almost become President or anything.

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    I don't care how you feel. That is the rules of the game. If you think you need to break the rules to get what you want, you deserve to lose. I don't care who you voted for.

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    I'm going by the term's defintion. Your unwritten rules are just as meaningless as your rules about the popular vote.

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    He won; whatever he wants to do is what he is going to do, regardless of what unwritten rules you have created about a "mandate."
     
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    it shows that we are not a democracy, when it comes to choosing our leader.

    by the rules, Trump could have lost by 20 million votes, and still win the Electoral College. that is a disaster.
     
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    We get it. You prefer the big cities to be able to ALWAYS choose the President, because you dislike America and think the smaller rural states shouldn't have a voice.

    Thank God our founders were Americans and not tyrants like you're suggesting.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He won the electoral colleg.

    But the fundamental fact regarding point *you* made about the percentage of people who voted is that that 54% of the country looked and donald/Pense on the ballot on election day and said, "no thanks."

    When 54% of the people vote against you, that is no mandate for radical change.
     
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    leaders being chosen by a majority of the people is called democracy.

    when the leader is chosen by 45% of the vote, we have a problem.
     
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    Well, that is your opinion. I'm not going to argue the merits or the flaws of the Electoral College (and I do agree there are some flaws), but that is the system we have in place at the moment.

    And I'm going to assume that you aren't a willfully ignorant man, but you knew going into this election cycle that your candidate of choice would need 270 electoral votes to win the Presidency. If you understood this, then you don't get to complain about the outcome.
     
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    Since when is New York or LA is not America? Just because you dislike American and think people who live in cities shouldn't have a voice.

    Good lord.

    Our founding fathers would be appalled at the way the system works now.
     

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