Omicron spreads mostly among vaccinated

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  1. Tempest62

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    The point is dead and never existed since day 1. It’s not a vaccine, and it fails to prevent illness and transmission.
     
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    Biden is a liar, and has made a career out of lying for 50 years. He’s not qualified to open his mouth on any subject, no less the Fauci-Xi redesigned virus.
     
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    The point is, that this is NOT a vaccine. Vaccines by definition prevent transmission. This jab is more like Tylenol or a health additive.
     
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    Vaccines train the bodies immune system to target the virus, nothing more, nothing less.... the rest is up to your immune system

    we learned this in grade school way back when I went to school, do they not teach that nowadays?

    for anyone to say the current vaccines are more like Tylenol, seems to be greatly misinformed
     
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    The current jab is a half assed therapeutic where the jabbed who catch the Fauci-Xi redesigned virus carry a viral load many orders of magnitude greater than unjabbed who have the virus. The jabbed are a greater threat to everyone.
     
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    Omicron spreads mostly among vaccinated

    False statistic intended to fight vaccination. The reason for this is simply that most people are vaccinated, not that being vaccinated increases spread. Most traffic accidents occur within 25 miles of home because most driving occurs within 25 miles of home. False statistic.
     
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    Governor Jim Justice tests positive.

    "While I was surprised that my test results came back positive, I'm thankful to the Lord above that I've been vaccinated, I've been boosted, and that I have an incredible support system, especially my loving family," Justice said.

    West Virginia's COVID-19 czar, Dr. Clay Marsh, said he has "full confidence" that Justice will recover quickly because he was fully vaccinated and received a booster dose of the COVID vaccine.

    "Without the immunity afforded by those vaccines, his outcome could be much worse. I continue to strongly encourage all West Virginians to take the COVID-19 vaccine and get boosted when it's time to do so," Marsh said in a statement.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...ginia-gov-jim-justice-tests-positive-covid-19
    There are still some crackpots who kowtow to ideological media entertainers and parrot their nonsense rather than respect the expertise of public health experts, but their numbers have been dropping.
     
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    You mean the same government and CDC that told you the vaccine will stop Covid
    The same government and CDC that told you if you get the vaccine you won't be hospitalized
    The same government and CDC that killed thousands of children with an experimental polio vaccine
    The same government and CDC that killed blacks in the Tuskegee syphilis study
    The same government and CDC who wants to force everyone to take the vaccine while ignoring those pre infected with greater immunity
    The same government and CDC that told you a 3 cent paper mask will protect you from a .03 micron aerosol virus
    The same government and CDC who (for the first time in history) put a bounty of Covid paying hospitals to diagnose Covid deaths for money
    The same government and CDC who is knowingly ignoring the John Hopkins study because it doesn't fit their agenda
    The same government and CDC who are claiming the US has 14 million active cases out of a total global 30 million cases?
    4% of the population has almost 50% of all active cases out of 7.7 billion people?

    I prefer research that isn't politically biased.
     
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    It's not meant to do either one. It mainly keeps Omicron from killing you, which Omicron still can do quite readily. Vaccines aren't a force shield which keeps microbes off you entirely. They allow your body to fight the disease off, often quite comfortably, instead of dying by being crucified internally.
     
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    I am unfamiliar with the government or CDC you reference.

    The government and CDC with whom I am familiar never claimed that a vaccine would "stop covid," that vaccination would prevent all hospitalizations, that killed thousands of children with an experimental polio vaccine, that forced everyone to be vaccinated, that paid hospitals to misdiagnose covid, that knowingly ignored reputable studies, etc.

    If the government and CDC that infest your noggin exist outside your noggin, please provide documentation from reputable sources to substantiate your nonsense.

    If it is the hyper-ideological, crackpot blather it appears to be, you need not bother.

    Even the Cry Baby Loser who had spewed his untruths about the pandemic continually is now parroting Dr Fauci and other public health experts:

     
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    Yeah, we know. You know nothing of history. The ONLY thing you are familiar with is how to regurgitate media trip. And you're real good at it.

    President Biden exaggerated the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines during a CNN town hall
    “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations,”
    “This is a simple, basic proposition: If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in an ICU unit, and you’re not going to die,”
    https://www.poynter.org/fact-checki...-of-covid-19-vaccines-during-a-cnn-town-hall/
    NEXT

    More polio cases now caused by vaccine than by wild virus
    LONDON -- Four African countries have reported new cases of polio linked to the oral vaccine, as global health numbers show there are now more children being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/polio-cases-now-caused-vaccine-wild-virus-67287290
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    I never said misdiagnose. Now you're just falsifying what I posted.
    I said put a bounty on Covid paitents
    Hospitals in COVID-19 hotspots to receive $10 billion more in federal aid
    The new payments will be $50,000 per COVID-19 admission

    https://www.hfma.org/topics/news/2020/07/the-new-round-will-pay--50-000-per-covid-19-admission--compared-.html
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    Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine
    https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
    Israeli study shows natural immunity delivers 13 times more protection than COVID vaccines
    https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/israeli-study-shows-natural-immunity-delivers-13-times-more-protection-than-covid-vaccines/
    Supported by John Hopkins
    This study from Israel found that the rates of SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infections in vaccinated individuals, were significantly higher than the rates of reinfection and hospitalization in previously infected individuals.
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    The same government and CDC that killed blacks in the Tuskegee syphilis study
    The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male (informally referred to as the Tuskegee Experiment or Tuskegee Syphilis Study) was a study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the United States Public Health Service (PHS) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on a group of nearly 400 African Americans with syphilis. The purpose of the study was to observe the effects of the disease when untreated, though by the end of the study medical advancements meant it was entirely treatable.
    The men were not informed of the nature of the experiment, and more than 100 died as a result.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study
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    That would be HISTORICAL EVENTS that infest my noggin, which obviously has eluded you for years.
    NEXT

    Cry baby loser? Awww, Did someones feewings get hurt again? Not that you would know this but that statement says more about you. lol
     
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  12. Natty Bumpo

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    Politics isn't the weird worship of one Cry Baby Loser who lacks the integrity and confidence to admit he lost.

    Your cherry-picking and distorting history in a desperate need to invalidate the science of immunology, epidemiology, and public health doesn't work for me. You sound like an ideologue who regurgitates propaganda, not a medical expert.

    Even the Loser is now parroting Dr Fauci and attacking cowardly politicians
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    "The vaccine is one of the greatest achievements of mankind!"

    "The ones that get very sick and go to the hospital are the ones that don't do the vaccine...
    And if you take the vaccine you're protected, the results of the vaccine are good."

    "Well, I've taken it. I've had the booster. I watched a couple of politicians be interviewed and one of the questions was, 'Did you get the booster?'
    And they, 'Oh, oh,' they're answering it - like in other words, the answer is 'Yes,' but they don't want to say it.
    Because they're gutless!"
     
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    No, facts are facts and history is history, with its beautiful and ugly sides.
    Your reaction to those facts just indicates your own indoctrination and inability to think independently.
     
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    Which would have what to do with my post again? You can't dispute something so its off to Trumppy land for you?
    Thats pretty telling.

    It doesn't work for you because
    A. You are clueless about it
    B. You couldn't dispute ANYTHING I posted

    If it was cherry picking or distorting history, you could dispute it. But you didn't, because you couldn't.
    But we all appreciate the admission.

    When you have something other than Trump worshiping, you let us know.
    Until then, ranting isn't disputing anything. Its just a sign of ability and lack there of.

    But feel free to post your Trumppy pictures if you think that makes you feel better since disputing a post is obviously way way out of your league.
     
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    No, I don't form conclusions based upon ideological dogma.

    I recognize that politicians and media entertainers are not experts in public health, immunology, virology (or climatology or any other scientific disciplines, for that matter.)

    Unlike dogmatists, scientists deal with a body of empirical data (not merely self-serving snippets of it,) the ongoing compilation and analysis of which dictates that it self-correct whenever necessary. Thus, progress.

    Dogmatist just spout their dogma.
     
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    Fauci Lies in the Senate.

    “So what was it this time? Easy. It was when Rand Paul asked him if he thought it ‘appropriate to use your $420,000 salary to smear scientists who don’t agree with you?’ Fauci predictably denied the charge, but just about anyone with an ounce of sense could likely guess he was lying. Alas, there is no need for guesswork. An American Institute for Economic Research Freedom of Information request makes it plain: Fauci absolutely used his government position to smear any number of people with whom he disagrees.”

    Fauci is a liar and needs to be removed from his position. We also need to know what his role was in developing COVID 19 and covering it up. If it was intended to be taken from bats, modified with the spike protein, and then returned to infect the bats via airborne transmission, why were we lied to for a year about whether COVID 19 could be airborne transmitted?
     
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    Since when?
    Instead of whining over Trump, why not stay on topic and dispute what you claim doesn't exist.
    Or is that abridge too far for you?
     
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    Yes YOU do ! -
    YOU worship and pay Obeisance at the cloven feet of a :icon_shithappens:POS :icon_shithappens: who arrogantly
    .declares - "Attacks on me are attacks on Science" & "I represent Science !"

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    And then this Cult leading Miscreant, proceeds to Coerce, Silence, Censor,
    Suppress & Destroy any Real expert Scientist who dares to question or dissent
    ............................ from the supposed authority of his Dictates, as regards any aspect
    .................................................................................................................... of the Issue at hand.

    And that is exactly what YOU are doing here. The True Believer who has sold
    his Intellect for an easy FIX on a Existential Problem that effects all of Humanity

    "self-serving snippets"
    "vaccines Vaccines Vaccines Boosters & more BOOSTERS !" -
    ..... & Damed to HELL and destroy any heterodox Infidel who dares
    .......................................................................... to question OUR SCIENCE


    & Damed to HELL any Scientist who might do research or raise concerns
    that such extreme use of Vaccines, might in time Damage our
    Natural
    ..... Immune System. Or that the 'Spike Protein' introduced by these
    ..,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.. EXPERIMENTS might in themselves be Deadly TOXINS



    In a Perfect World YOU would Gag when YOU spoke the word Science and YOU
    would be forced to confront the Hypocritical Projections YOU practice in the Mirror



    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Fauci And Collins Reportedly Pressured A Group Of Scientists
    To Abandon A Paper They Were Authoring On COVID Origins
    And A Possible Lab Leak.

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/1...n-covid-origins-and-potential-wuhan-lab-leak/
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    Try to stop parroting ideological media entertainers.

    Public health professionals have a much greater understanding of public health issues, and empirical data guides them, not crackpot dogma.

     
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    Except. all of your links come from the media

    Mine comes from John Hopkins and the medical researchers working on Covid.

    But you did make my point. You will swallow ANYTHING the media provides over the actual studies
     
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    God you make me laugh out loud.

    First you claim

    Then you post this media babble :roflol:


    And both in the very same post.
    I swear, you can't make this stuff up.
     
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    I'll let you pleasure yourself with your ideological take on medical science.

    In medical matters, I'll still prefer the consensus of actual medical experts based upon the empirical data they compile and analyze.
     
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    Yet you haven't posted a single one.
    Everything you have quoted was media
    Go figure
     
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    `:buggered: :please: ~ It appears that the vaccinated are now the "super spreaders ". Go figure ... :bonk:
     

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