One killed as Gaza 'Great March of Return' protests enter fourth week

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well then - here's for another 70 years of hope and change... and wait. Do not lose them keys :applause:
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They won't, remember it took Jews 2000 years to return and then the Brits and Arabs did it for them.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Palestinians too are prepared to have an annual Great March of Return for 2000 years? Poor people :hug:

    Or, do you thin UNRWA is gonna do it for them?
     
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    They were forced out of their own homes so that European settlers could take them over. There were many massacres and rapes. If I had been in their situation I think I most certainly would like my homeland to be without these vicious European settlers. You clearly are not a do as you would be done by sort of person but quite a typical neo zionist. Someone who believes in Western Colonialism and killing or ethnic cleansing the Indigenous people Was it you who asked for this thread to be moved again so that forum members do not know what is really going on by people like yourself to the Palestinians.
     
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    No alexa, was not me.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, alexa. Palestinians were offered an equitable deal by UN on par with the Jews. Jews have accepted the proposal and Palestinians refused and made multiple wars on Israel. Many Palestinians abandoned their homes in hope of speedy return once the Jews are thrown into the sea.

    They still have keys to the doors they last locked 70 years ago? No one to blame for this, but yourselves. Cry me a river! :nana:
     
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    what are you saying no to.
    They weren't. Altogether the largely new immigrants/colonial settlers made up just one third of Mandatory Palestine, yet they were offered 56% of the land and the Arabs of whom there were twice as many as colonialists and who had been living there for up to 5,000 years were only offered 43% of Mandatory Palestine.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#Proposed_partition

    on top of that Zionists only owned 6% of the land. Contrary to what some people believe it is important to use the word Zionist as many if not most local Jews remained loyal to their people. There were some other Jews who it really is not fair to include with the Zionists. Those are the Displaced Persons held in camps in Europe who the Zionists would not allow to emigrate anywhere else and who were basically forced into Palestine many of them having survived the holocaust to face the their deaths as the Arabs came in to try and stop the massacres, rape and ethnic cleansing.

    I am sure they did given that, as the British say in their Archives, the only deal the Zionists would accept would be one which was so overwhelmingly in their favour that it would be impossible for the Palestinians to accept.

    However three things on this. This was advisory and even this vote was only achieved after a halt to the proceedings in which blackmail and bribery happened on a grand scale (What Price Israel. Lilienthal) Israel has though throughout the years tried to use the UN vote to justify her ethnic cleansing, a crime against Humanity, and colonisation of another people's homeland.

    Second that deal never included ethnic cleansing. You will see from the video I left that the ethnic cleansing was carried out despite there being no battles. The Palestinians had no weapons. This was just the same old white man up to the same old business as Americans with the Indians except that these people did not even have anything to fight back with.

    Third and possibly most importantly, people are talking about how this did as you have said include a Palestinian State which Israel has to the extent she is able stolen the land and resources from including again in 67 a mass ethnic cleansing of the indigenous people many of whom had already been ethnically cleansed from their homes in Israel. It is time for Palestine to receive her State which the UN Promised on the land promised.

    70% of the people on the Great March of Return are walking back to their homeland which they were ethnically cleansed from and which going against International law Israel did not allow them to return to killing those who tried.

    I know your attitude. I know you are a Supremacist who cares nothing for those who are not white who does not see the Palestinians as human beings and believes it is fine to kill them for sport. It sickens me that we are seeing this again but I do recognise it and will never support it.
     
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    Absolutely correct the survivors of the concentration camps were often called soap by the Zionist Jews.

    Only when they realised there was much money to be made out of the Holocaust did the Zionists start pretending they cared about them.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    The Palestinians were 60% of the population but were only offered 40% of the land.
     
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    Three words, alexa - Osh, Kyrgyzstan. I was there in 2010 and what I've witnessed, has forever changed my views on Islam and Muslims.

    So again; cry me a river.
     
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    oh, so you do hate Muslims
     
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    Are they better off today? Will they ever be better off? Perhaps, it is time to cut the loses as they say, and directly negotiate with Israel instead of relying on UN, the Court of Justice etc, etc? You tell me.
     
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    Oh so I do not hate Muslims
     
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    u said the offer was fair, and i proved you wrong.

    why should 60% of the population, all mostly native born, accept 40% of the land when the other side is almost all recent immigrants?
     
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    No, you haven't proven me wrong. The offer was equitable.
     
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    in what ignorant, bigoted world is 40% of the land for 60% of the population, equitable?
     
  18. Dutch

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    I'm happy to see you calling United Nations ignorant and bigoted :)
     
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    UNWAR is being paid for each alleged 'refugee'. It is no wonder they report that every Gazan is a refugee.
    Had UNWAR been paid for US refugees, all of the US population was declared refugees.
     
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    the UNGA 181 resolution was ignorant and bigoted, and guided by a Colonialist mentality.
     
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    Right on!
     
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    r u jewish?
     
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    A resolution nonetheless. And so, an ignorant and bigoted West has voted for resolution, and enlightened Arabs have voted against.. and now we have what we have - 70 years of marches of great return!

    You know what? I’m a Westerner, and therefore am sighting with the West.
     
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    I’m at American citizen,
     
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    thats not what I asked you.

    I am a Jew, are you as well?
     

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