One More Idiot Birther this time from Alaska

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  1. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    Oh no you don't! You agreed with a birther and claimed to be skeptical, don't get coy with me now!

    So answer the question, do you believe the Hawaiian government conspired with the president to falsify documents? I hope this isn't another thread where you try to run away from the words you've written!

    I guess we could double down: Based on you're posts, it can be assumed that you believe the Hawaiian government conspired with the president to falsify documents and that he is also interested in starting a civil war, is that correct?
     
  2. groupthink

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    obama was born in HI .. he was given a social security number... his father was a goat farmer from kenya.... ann dunham was a classy woman..the name barry soetoro was made up by nazi clansman. it is mentally insane to think otherwise. oh, and all those birth certificates are real... and obama is and always was a christian.. he never lived in Indonesia.. he grew up in Chicago ..eating hot dogs and watching the bulls... picture perfect Americana... hes never been to Pakistan..

    dont believe the racists lies by white people.
     
  3. scott e.

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    thank you.
     
  4. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Good to know you've witnessed his life from birth. Must've been crowded in that Hawaiian delivery room, eh?
     
  5. scott e.

    scott e. New Member

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    there is renewed interest about the time frame of working at baskins with what ss#. bill o'reilly stated as fact (he even made a big point of saying they're facts) that obama senior lived in connecticut for several years, a claim that to me is oddly out of place.
     
  6. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? Why would O'Reilly say that? Is he not aware that Harvard is actually in Massachusetts and not Connecticut? What odes that have to do with a job that Obama had as a teen in Hawaii?
     
  7. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    On a one-to-ten scale I'd give Obama about a four which does indicate a rather lousy president. Then I'd rate former President Bush at about a two, Clinton at about a five, GW Bush at about a five, and Romney as a potential three so where does that leave us? All of D's and R's are lousy.
     
  8. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    Why do you hide from the words you've written? Why do you refuse to own your words?

    You claim to be suspicious of his birthplace and think he wants to start a civil war, so answer the question:

    Do you think Obama and the state of Hawaii conspired to falsify documents and that the sitting Command in Chief wants to start a civil war?
    Apologies, I suppose it's a rhetorical question since you've stated both of these things openly

    So I guess we ought to move on to the better questions:

    Why do you think the state of Hawaii would conspire with the President and why do you think the President wants to start a civil war?
     
  9. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    While none of us were present I did watch a CNN interview with one of the nurses that took care of Obama in post-delivery and she remembered him quite well. There weren't that many blacks being born in Hawaii.
     
  10. scott e.

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    lol... nice try.

    with cutting edge terms like "gigantic minority" and "almost entirely comprised", i'm stunned that you haven't put this issue right to bed.
     
  11. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    I get it -- you don't respect any recent presidents. But that's really beside the point here. If I started a thread aimed at liberals with IDIOT in the title, I'd be called down for flamebaiting. The argument wouldn't be that they're NOT idiots, the argument would be I'm fanning the flames by calling them idiots.

    See the irony here? ;)
     
  12. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    A new challenger approaches!!

    So why do you believe the state of Hawaii conspired with the President to falsify documents?

    That you are in a minority position by several orders of magnitudes is just a statement of fact, that the group he believes in this conspiracy is comprised almost entirely of right wingers, and that folks who lean right tend to be less intelligent is also another statement of fact. Wave your banner proudly!
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    I don't care about the birther issue. I care about mods calling people they disagree with idiots.
     
  14. groupthink

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    i mean you called obama a lousy president... isnt it possible some give him a 4 due to his black skin?
     
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    was his name ever barry? did he ever go by that name?
     
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    was his name ever barry? did he ever go by that name?
     
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    That is a legitimate political opinion.

    Birthers started from the position that they assumed that Barack Obama would be a bad President, agree he is a bad President- and believe that is one of the reasons to believe he is not eligible.

    Eligibility has nothing to do with effectiveness. Birthers confuse the two.

    Shiva is correct- the only way to be a Birther is to believe in a conspiracy theory that would involve the State of Hawaii.
     
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    Birthers often rely upon less than reliable sources. Why anyone would think that Bill O'Reilly is a reliable source or has access to any information doesn't make any sense to me.
     
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    And then we have someone calling in the race card......
     
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    A new challenger approaches!!

    So why do you believe the state of Hawaii conspired with the President to falsify documents?

    That you are in a minority position by several orders of magnitudes is just a statement of fact, that the group he believes in this conspiracy is comprised almost entirely of right wingers, and that folks who lean right tend to be less intelligent is also another statement of fact. Wave your banner proudly!
     
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    Oh I do see the Irony:
    Threads started by Smartmouthwoman

    Jury Duty with a Liberal: "This idiot was a liberal Democrat."

    Stupid Liberals vs Evil Conservatives: "While I don't believe ALL liberals are stupid"

    Quotes by Smartmouthwoman:
    "Maybe it's because you always say the same things idiot liberals say?"
    "Liberals are Democrats and Democrats Lie."

    Looks to me like you are calling your own threads flame bait....
     
  23. Anikdote

    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    Certain posters here want the right to make whatever outlandish claims they want, such as claiming the president wasn't born here or that he wants to start a civil war.

    What posters like that also want is to squash the ability to call those claims absurd. It's why when people make claims like this they run and hide and ignore those who call them on it.
     
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    "Certain posters here want the right to make whatever outlandish claims they want"


    lol... pretty funny. for the miscellaneous sub catagorey of "other" in the bowels of conspiracy "theory".

    where should we go ? i guess the next step would be to furnish us with the obot script of what you would like us to say... lol

    of course, i'm just a level 1 participant, i'm no "guru" like the others.
     
  25. scott e.

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    was his name ever barry ?

    good question... i didn't see the answer.
     

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