Only Enough Jobs For Half The Working Age Population The Economic Truth

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  1. S L H

    S L H New Member

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    The longer mainstream society stays on the present course, the worse things will get and the harder it will be to overcome the growing crisis. No matter how much we are inclined to ignore it, we will not be able to escape this reality: under present economic and government policy, more and more people will fall deeper into debt and extreme poverty. The present economy only works for 30% of the population, tens of millions of people have been mathematically eliminated.

    There are only enough full-time jobs for 50% of the working-age population, and half of the full-time jobs pay under $35k per year. Since 2007, the economy has lost over 14 million full-time jobs while the overall population has grown by 17 million people. In current conditions, it is impossible for 70% of the working-age population to earn enough income to afford basic necessities without taking on ever-increasing levels of debt, which they will never be able to pay back because there are not enough jobs that generate the necessary income to keep up with the cost of living.

    From 2007 2013, overall wealth increased 26%, while the median household lost a shocking 43% of their wealth. If median wealth continues to decline at this rate, over 50% of US households will be bankrupt within the next decade. Mainstream propaganda has temporarily obscured the fact that we are sitting on a ticking economic time bomb. Statistical fraud by the government on poverty, cost of living and unemployment cannot cover up the fact that the overwhelming majority of the population is on a fast track to impoverishment.

    http://www.alternet.org/economy/coming-revolution-evolutionary-leap-or-descent-chaos-and-violence
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Will the illegals be ok though?

    That is really the only question we need to concern ourselves with.
     
  3. S L H

    S L H New Member

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    This is not an immigration policy thread it's about americas economic reality

    Please stay on subject plenty of immigration threads out there
     
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    Thanks Obama.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    What happened to "hope and change"?
     
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    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    Here's the first sentence in that marvelous article.
    "A new paradigm is organically evolving: new economic systems, sustainable communities, solar energy, organic farming, liquid democracy, worker co-ops and new media."

    So much for America's economic reality. I especially like "liquid democracy".
     
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    the country grew in part to migrant workers. If your skills you possess are not marketable in a particular area then you must migrate. THere are no guarantees that you will have a job in the Dreaded Private Sector (DPS) anywhere you wish to live.

    If there is demand for your skills in Guyana, then Guyana is where you must go
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What if you have no skills? Do you just die in the street?
     
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    interesting, there is no such thing as "no skills'

    Maybe you can carry 75 pounds up a ladder so a roofing company could use you

    Maybe you are thin and flexible so a plumber or exterminator could use you to crawl under houses or in confined attics

    Again, this country prospered in part due to migrant workers. People were accustomed to going where the jobs were.

    heck, it's common still in China and acceptable. Why is that concept so distasteful to you?

    Do you think everyone should be promised a job and a certain standard of living wherever they wish to reside?
     
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    """"Do you think everyone should be promised a job and a certain standard of living ...."""".

    No, but we should enforce the emigration laws and if they say they are coming to pick fruit in Yakama then they should not be in Auburn building house, being paid under the table and working for $5 or 6 an hour. I was there and saw it while we had union carpenters sitting on the bench with no work.
     
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    "The Government does not Create Jobs."
    Ted Cruz
     
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    hmmm, and why might those "union carpenters" be sitting on the bench?
     
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    Actually these issues are precisely why I decided some years ago that sooner or later socialism was going to become the inevitable reality for most U.S. citizens. While people can be coached to achieve ever higher educational standards to make themselves marketable in an ever changing business environment filled with ever escalating demands of increasingly sophisticated and complex aspects, they can only do so much and to a certain extent before they reach 'burn out' and begin hitting their coping mechanism ceiling.

    So, business turns to the wider population of the world and begins importing people who can still manage to attain the necessary level of skills and education and then reach for more and for more of them. Meanwhile inside the U.S. there is an ever growing population of people who simply cannot do the things necessary in order to cope with increasing demands and ever more changes.

    Mind you I think that socialism as a solution-set is ideologically evil in nature as it warps the 'spirit' over time, but I do not see an alternative solution. But then I am a total cynic . . . :cool:
     
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    Could it be the reason that unions killed American manufacturing and decimated the intelligence of public school children.

    Unions were needed, they have out lived that purpose and laws are now in place to protect workers.

    Get rid of unions bring back manufacturing.

    *Note - Taxing companies for having workers isn't helping the problem. It's probably why they don't hire as many people as they could actually use.
     
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    it takes a cultural change to bring it about to the country.

    When you demonize success and hard work, and don't applaud those who fail, and keep trying, then you plant the seeds for laziness (liberalism/socialism)
     
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    Acquire a skill? Go to school? Work with your back if you have no brain? And, remember, a man with absolutely no skills recently won the presidency, twice.

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    Gatewood: "Actually these issues are precisely why I decided some years ago that sooner or later socialism was going to become the inevitable reality for most U.S. citizens."....whether they want it or not.
     
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    Of course not, I was playing devil's advocate. If one cannot find the means to survival through their labor or skills, through family or friends, or through charity - if you have exhausted all voluntary means of achieving survival, even in this circumstance I do not see the use of involuntary means (such as theft, taxation, etc) as justified. So no free jobs or standards of living for me, tyvm.

    I'm also perfectly fine with migrating to where your preferences can best be realized. I can't stand those who try to protect themselves and their poor labor from competition through force - unions, xenophobic politicians, etc.
     

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